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Good morning everyone and welcome back in.

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Good morning, and thank you for coming
welcome to public forum Please turn yourself

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on to the vibrating silence or offsetting
the Gary sensing public forum is intended

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for matters Not included on the agenda
for the upcoming board of County

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Commissioners meeting Citizens wishing to
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sign up to speak to such items at the
regular BCC meeting speakers are asked to

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refrain from abusive or profane remarks
disruptive Outbursts protest or other

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conduct which interferes with the orderly
conduct of this meeting each speaker is

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limited to three minutes unless otherwise
determined by the chairperson to allow

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sufficient time for all speakers. If
20 or more speakers are signed up,

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the time will be reduced to two minutes
out of respect for all attendees.

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present a visual aid when speaking are asked

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to submit all materials at least 24 hours
prior to the meeting to submissions at

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myascambia.com. If you are signed up to
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visual aids, please see a county staff
member in the lobby for assistance at the

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chairperson's discretion to Gary Sansing Public
Forum meeting and five minutes prior

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to the schedule start at the upcoming BCC
meeting to allow that meeting to commence

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on time. So again, thank you so much for
being here today. Our first speaker is

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Samantha Mosley and after
Samantha is Brandy Johnson.

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Is Samantha here? Okay, if
somebody sees her, let her know.

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Brandy Johnson.

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And after Brandy is Margaret Hostetter.

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With all the chaos this week, I didn't
prepare a speech. But I just wanted to say,

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you know, I'm thinking about my neighbors
and all the damage suffered through this

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hurricane. I know a lot of people's lives
have changed. And I'm gonna try not to get

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emotional because it's
just been very chaotic.

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I reached out to commissioner May about
we had some things go on with that I spoke

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on last time about the environmental protection
and the The right away and all that

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well right now we have this oak tree that
split in the right away And it's propped

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up by a limb I've had to run kids out from
under that tree twice because I'm scared.

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It's gonna fall on them I have
called environmental protection and maybe today the

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phone is on but it's just a recording at
this point I've been given no direction.

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We have other trees down, but that's
on our personal property and we've reached out

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to you know some of the nonprofits and
that we've done everything we can do on our

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own and like at this point we're stuck
in limbo. But I know right now a lot of

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people are hurting so I just wanted to
ask everybody if you're praying person to

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keep your neighbors in your
prayers and you know lift up Mr.

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Keith bow in your prayers even though you
know we might have differences of opinions

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it's important that our humanity shine
through all of this and we look at all the

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many ways that were the same instead of
our different and that we come together as a

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community and help each other the best
that we can. Thank you. Yes, ma 'am.

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Thank you so much. Margaret Hossetter.

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And after Margaret is Jason Libbert.

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Good morning. Thank you for being here.
I really appreciate all that you all have

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done and the staff. And I'm sure that
you've all suffered finance, well,

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financially, yes, physical damage,
perhaps to your homes, your property,

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as we have. And our health and so forth.

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So we still don't have electricity,
for instance, in Brownsville.

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The first thing I'd like to ask
is if you will please commit to

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individually giving us an explanation
when you are called upon to have

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a decision, a vote, on something that is
controversial, like the two we have today

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for OLF 8 and the moratorium for AI.
Individual comments from you as to your

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decision and why you are voting
one way or the other is imperative.

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Otherwise, you're rubber stamping what the
staff or the attorney has set in front of

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you. And with all the controversy,

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I hope you realize we need
your personal explanation every

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time.

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And now I'd like to mention
to you something that is very

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important internationally and nationally.

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And it's a comparison of
how the world manages to

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technologies that represent
a massive leap in human

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capabilities. One was 80 years ago at
the end of World War II, the atomic

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threat.

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And the reaction of the governments were,
this is too dangerous, we have to control

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it. So the governments set
immediately into place severe and

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restrictive regulations so that this
powerful force would be controlled.

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Now, it was easier to control that, in
a sense, because some of the ingredients

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and the technology needed to
produce bombs of that degree

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were difficult. But compare
that to today, the AI

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threat of today.

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The AI threat of today is real.

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We know that there is something called
the sandbox where these programs are given

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tasks and they are finding ways
to break out of their controlled

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environment. They are dangerous, but we
have no federal government or international

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government regulations and
there are six multinational

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Billionaire multi -billionaire and
trillionaires controlling this technology the

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government needs to become the leader in
this Regulation thank you so much for your

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concern and your comments. We do appreciate
it Jason Libert and after Jason will be

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Mark Glover Good

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morning Jason Libert president Pensacola
Sports. Thank you for the opportunity to

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Speak with you just want to give you a
couple updates on some sports marketing

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initiatives. We've got going on in the
next coming months won the southeastern

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conference women's softball soccer championships
is scheduled it's on its happening

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at ash and broughenham we had a great
call with the conference yesterday with

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michael roads from parks staff
the facility looks great they are

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100 percent and committed to bringing the
event here to pincicola this will be i

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believe the fifth year

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the event. So if you have not been a
really to encourage you to come out and watch

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the play, it is November
8th through the 15th.

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Um and let us know if you're coming
out. We'd love to welcome you out there.

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Um.

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So, I'm going to let you know that that
meeting and everything is progressing very

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well. And I know it's on the agenda so
I can come back to speak, but in John R

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Jones, we are obviously in support of that.
So we know that's going to make a great

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deal of impact for the sports tourism
industry. So again, thank you for your support

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of sports tourism and what
it does for the community.

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Thank you Jason, we appreciate it
Mark Glover and then Larry downs Good

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morning My name is Mark Glover and I'm the
president CEO for a line strategies and

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partnerships and we aid Public facing
municipalities in particular after

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major storms have occurred We've recovered,
you know hundreds of millions of dollars

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we support and basically it are the the
large -loss consultants for you know the US

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Virgin Islands government several housing
authorities and other municipalities

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throughout the country and and we're
licensed in order to be able to do so we

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recognize and the difficulties that you
all have gone through and they're still

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going through in terms of some of the power
issues. And what we do is try to figure

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out how we can basically undergird you to
make sure that your property insurance is

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recovered in a manner that's consistent with
the policy and that is also dovetailed

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with some of the requirements that now
FEMA has basically put in place because it

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has gotten. I'll say exponentially more
difficult with regard to the public

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assistance Which hasn't quite been turned
on yet, but we understand that's coming

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and so again mark lever a lot strategies
partnerships We are we are here to help and

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we'd like to be able to at least take a
look at some of the damages that you all

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have sustained at the county level and
Be able to help you document to make sure

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that you have a robust
recovery process. Thank you

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Madam chair what Wes so far we copy my
recovery and public adjusting is that

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something that they have to be on a
pre -approved list? It's already pre decided or

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is that something that will be decided
later? It's already been decided We have a

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FEMA consultant in Thompson that does
the tracking the monitoring and all the

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documentation for us at the moment They've
been under contract and that's who we're

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using at the moment And who does
the public Thompson does the public adjusting as

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well in the negotiation? Yes, so
Thompson doesn't bow Okay, thank

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you Larry Downs and after
Larry will be Francesca

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Larry Downs junior plumbing LLC
because fecal matters All right.

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I'm just gonna read the email into the
record here It's already in the record,

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but just so everybody else can hear it
this happened last Commission meeting

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actually not the Commission meeting the
Gary sensing public forum Which is a

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separate meeting, you know, y 'all
adjourn it Scambia County commissioners.

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This was sent the next day
next morning 6 6 30 a.m.

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651 a.m. Scambia County commissioners. I
spoke at the public forum this evening on

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10 1 2026 and I was a little aggravated
for My time being cut down to two

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minutes after approximately two -thirds
of the speakers received the full three

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minutes. Commissioner Lumen May
interrupted me and made several slanderous

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defamatory statements during my
time to speak at the public forum.

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On occasion, Commissioner May has been known
to be adversarial towards me during my

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time to speak. However, on this
occasion, he really crossed the line.

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Way more, way more so than his usual. And
several of our county citizens told me

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some of what he said. I couldn't hardly
believe it, so I had to go and watch it on

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YouTube after the meeting. Usually I don't
even listen to Commissioner Lumen May,

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and I just keep on speaking while mentally
blocking demeaning or demeaning things he

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says to me. I don't get distracted,
and that is what I did this time.

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Or otherwise, I would have directly
addressed his lies right then and there.

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But it probably wouldn't have mattered
as they wouldn't have gave me the time to

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defend myself from the Commissioner
May's blatant slanderous lie statements.

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After further review, Commissioner Looman
May did make several slanderous false

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statements about me, about myself, Larry
Downs Jr., which is synonymous with Larry

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Downs Jr. plumbing LLC. Commissioner Lumen
may said and I quote as close as I can.

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Well, all we need.

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That's appropriate. Coca -Cola time.

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That's what we need to talk about Larry
is how you put sewer into Perdido.

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Just pull a permit the next time
you put sewer into a water line.

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Who is it? Vaccines or how you put put
sewer into people's drinking water?

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And we will do it. These are
lies I sincerely believe our County Commissioner May

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is using his position as County Commissioner
to harm myself, my name, and my

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business, Larry Downs Jr. Plumbing LLC.
I can't imagine any other reason why he

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would say such slanderous defamatory lies.
And in a forum that is broadcast to the

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world unless intentionally to harm me.

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Our employees, including my sons and daughter,
who are earning a living from our

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family plumbing business. Our family business
also provides a valuable service to

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our community. As more and
more of our fellow citizens...

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Larry, thank you. The time is up. Alright,
well, y 'all can do a public records

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request for it. Missionobvious.com. Yes,
sir. Thank you. I've never attacked Lumen

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May. Thank you, Larry. Even though he said
so. Thank you. Francesca, you're next.

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And after Francesca is Pepper.

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Thank you madam chair since you addressed
my name Larry, you know my office number

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You know where I am I stand behind
everything I said anytime you'd like to meet and

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talk to me feel free to come see me buddy

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All right gentlemen. Thank you Francesca.

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Hello. How are y 'all today?

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Before I get started chair commissioners
and County Attorney I first want

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to talk about how Right
now I got connected with

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the Redneck Navy and they're going Redneck
Navy org they're going around helping

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with services and tree cutting and
providing food for people and currently right

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now they're trying to get mattresses so and
that's all of the scampia County so and

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I've been putting that online and I'll be
more than happy to give that to y 'all so

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I just wanted to tell you that

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So what I want to talk about today is

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I want to address the
government transparency

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of non -disclosure
agreements known as NDA.

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When the AI controversy began, we learned
about Florida West had signed NDAs in the

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company interests being AI data
centers in Escambia County.

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Residents couldn't even learn the company's
names exactly what the projects were.

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and citizens want to protect their
commitments and the importance of information.

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Now let's talk about the law. Florida
Statute says 12501 gives counties homes and

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rules authorities the means of the board
to the power to establish a local rule

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governing county operations. Provides those rules
do not conflict with state law.

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Florida's Sunshine Law Chapter 119
protects public access meetings and records.

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I understand Florida's statute 22807
and the development of confidentiality,

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but we're not axing for
third trade secrets.

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So why aren't we using a home rule to
a sorority to establish a transparency?

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I am just proposing what I call a public
transparency ordinance, and it should

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apply to all counties support
development, just not AI data centers.

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Here is what I'm proposing. First, require
a county to prove a legal review of NDA

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involving all county business. Second,
prohibiting agreements attempt to hide from

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the public that beyond. Fourth, before
the public money resources committed,

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disclose the legal ability and
maintain the public's confidentiality.

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What I'm asking is for y 'all to, today
I'm formally requesting the board to use

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home rule authority to place a proposed
transparent by covering the county support

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project and to put it on
the next board meeting.

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So that's what I'm proposing. Thank
you Francesca we appreciate your input.

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Pepper you're next and after
Pepper is Stan McDaniels.

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Good morning everybody. I didn't write a
speech we've been cleaning and helping our

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neighbors and at that I would like to
thank everybody on the board that's been

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helpful to the community and
people that aren't here as well.

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Thank you so much. Particularly Mayor
Reeves has done a great job, not only

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representing the city, but keeping
the county informed as well.

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So I wanted to shout him out.

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Brandi mentioned Keith, and
I also wanted to lift him up.

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He's a great member of the
community, and we don't agree on

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everything, but we love each other. We
love our community and we have that in

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common.

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I know he has a GoFundMe. He lost
his house and he's in a burn unit.

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He lost his two cats.

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So he could really use some help. And
I'm not the one that can do it, but maybe

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somebody listening can.

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And also Brandi, she's
got a really big tree.

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I know there's been a lot of resources
out there and She's reached out to all of

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them, like the brace and this emeritance
purse and some of the other stuff.

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So she could really use some help. And
it might be on county right away too.

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So yeah, one of my notes, thank you to
our community leaders. Yes, thank you.

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I do want to question if this
meeting should have happened today, because we're all

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still recovering.

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But I also want to thank you still
for being here because y 'all are recovering too.

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I don't know what y 'all's houses or
neighborhoods look like. Thank you guys.

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So Mayor

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Reeves made a post about FPL transparency
yesterday and I know this is a county

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meeting but a lot of city people watch too
and he was talking about FPL transparency

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and I really agree. It's an issue. And
he said that if you're in the city,

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he's trying to put a really comprehensive
list together of people that are still

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without power because that 95% that they
say is back up doesn't appear to be as

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accurate as they want to say it is.

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I liked what Margaret Hosteter said
about hearing reasons for decisions

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on really big stuff.

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And that goes all the way back
to the planning board as well.

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There's a lot of planning board members
that appear to just rubber stamp OLF 8.

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So it's an issue not just with
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And then FEMA,

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we really need their help
and y 'all need to...

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fill out the forms on my scambia county
and let everybody know so that we can get

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FEMA here. Thank you. Thank you. And I
did think it was important to have this

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meeting so that the community knew where we
were going to be and if they were having

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issues like Brandy that there was a set
space for them to come and ask for help.

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I believe in keeping consistency to make sure
that people have a place that they can

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go and ask for help. So that was my
biggest reason behind having this meeting.

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Thank you for doing that. Yes ma 'am.
Stan, your next and after Stan is Kristi

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Rosen. Stan McDaniel's with Master butler.com if
you need any tree service work or

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fencing Please check us out at Master
Butler calm or you can call me at 850 -261

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-2742 if you need any other work I
can recommend and refer you to some

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local Contractors in the area that
do electrical anything from electrical HVAC to

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general contracting. So give us a call
and let us know if you need any help.

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We are ready and available to help
the citizens of Escambia County.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you Stan. Kristie Rosen and then
after Kristie is Christopher Kerb.

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Good morning commissioners.

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I didn't write a speech for
this one. I am just like you.

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We're all recovering from the storm. But I
didn't want to touch on NDAs because They

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don't only affect us, they
affect you. They hamstring you.

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I understand there's some things that need
to be protected if you want to protect

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the name of the company that's coming in,
but to not be able to know the type of

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company that's coming in and the details
are things that you all need to know that

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shouldn't be kept from you,
let alone from the citizens.

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NDAs have places and have purposes. but
when it keeps the citizens in the dark and

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keeps the board that we elect to represent
us in the dark, they're not doing their

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job.

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We need y 'all to know what's going on.

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We entrusted y 'all to know for us.

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And so we're always scrambling because
we don't know and when we bring issues,

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y 'all have so many questions, it's obvious
that. Y 'all have been left in the dark

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too. And that's not fair to a
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And so we really need to do
something to protect all of us.

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I also want to thank all of y 'all
for being here. I know recovery is a slow process

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for all of us. We're all
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This is something that bonds us. And
this is something that can either tear us

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apart, or unite us.

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And something I've seen is all my
neighbors coming together. I was in Century

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yesterday. I was talking to people
who normally would never speak to me,

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sharing food.

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And they were thankful, and I was thankful
to hear their stories and to brighten

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their day and just be in community.

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And we need that. We need to get back to
that. I don't want to come up here and feel

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like it's us against y 'all. It
shouldn't be. Y 'all represent us.

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Y 'all are us.

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Commissioner Berry, you are me.
I live in Cantoma. You are me.

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You have said things up here that make
me so proud. I want you to know that.

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I want you to know that. You have made me
proud. And other commissioners up here,

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you have made me proud. And that's what we
want. I don't expect you to always agree

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with me. you can't I'm just one person
I'm just one person but I do expect

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a conversation so please let's communicate
let's be partners let's work together

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to do the best for scandia
county thank you so much

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Chris curb

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thank you Christine good

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morning Chris curb with flood defenders I

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signed up this morning to speak
on uh miss information you

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know social media Bobby briquette
cause it's also mentioned misinformation network.

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Over there in Santa Rosa County. It's
because a lot of people have opinions on

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things and you know opinions
are like well you know the

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story.

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Little slow this morning
everybody's recovering.

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One of the misinformation things is the
power companies are still here and there are

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still restoring power.

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Another misinformation is the
Schemia County. Y 'all are still.

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trying to do your damage assessments as
well as your other municipalities that

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it the correct information is y 'all have
to get that information to the state the

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state gets it to the governor and it goes
to the president and we get a declaration

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and money starts flowing for recovery at
least that's the way I understand and I'm

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sure you can correct me if I'm wrong
25 years working with this government.

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And I'm sure Wes will resound this later.

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But I want to thank y 'all,
instrumentally, for what y 'all do, representing the

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people.

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But really, who needs to be thanked the
most is the staff. Because I know what they

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go through, recovering from storms.

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You don't even have power at your
house. You take cold showers.

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You work eight hours
on and eight hours off.

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And you're trying to get
the people back to a well

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-being condition.

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I did want to throw out some
prayers out there for Keith Bowie.

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It's already been mentioned.

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One good thing about disasters, and you have
to look at things, the positive side is

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disasters bring people together
when there's so much division

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out there.

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Unification as we the people is what
changes things in our government and

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I'm gonna listen the rest of the board
meeting I'm not gonna speak on anything else

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standing up here singing the same song
quite often flooding matters just ask

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Noah

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thank you Chris that concludes our public
forum we have two minutes before our

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regular board meeting thank you

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if I could get everyone
back to the dais please

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Good morning. We are going to officially
call the board meeting to order.

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Thank you so much for being here Please
turn your cell phones to the vibrating

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silence or offsetting the board of County
Commissioners allows any person to speak

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regarding an agenda item The speaker is
limited to three minutes unless otherwise

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determined by the chairperson to allow
sufficient time for all speakers Speakers are

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asked to refrain from abusive or profane
remarks disruptive outbursts protest or

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other conduct which interferes with
the orderly conduct of this meeting.

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Upon completion of the public comment
period, discussion is limited to the board

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members and questions raised by the board.
Today for our invocation we have Pastor

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Jeremy from Christ is King Church.

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Thank you so much for being here, we do
appreciate it. If everyone will please

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stand.

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Almighty God, creator of heaven and earth,
we come before you this morning tired but

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grateful. You have carried us through
the storm and your mercies are new again

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today. We come with heavy hearts
because lives are lost in our community.

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We lift up those families who are grieving,
draw them close to you in their sorrow,

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surround them with people who care for them,
who will care for them well and comfort

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them only the way that you can.

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You know that what this county has
endured? You see the damaged homes, the downed

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trees, the businesses closed, the
families that are still waiting for power,

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water, and all of us waiting for a sense
of normal to return. We bring all this

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before you, all the suffering and loss,
whether great or small, because you are a

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God who can provide for these needs.

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Thank you for the linemen, the road
crews, the first responders, the emergency

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managers, the volunteers, the neighbors who have
helped work long hours to help with

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the recovery. strengthen their bodies,
strengthen our bodies, and keep us safe as

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the work continues. We pray for these
commissioners as they lead a scheme of county

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through recovery. Give them wisdom for
decisions that must be made quickly and

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stamina for the long work ahead. Help them
see clearly where help is needed most and

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let no one be overlooked, especially the elderly,
the poor, and those with no one to

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speak for them. Give them patience with
one another and with all the agencies and

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people they must work with. Lord you are
our refuge and our strength a very present

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help in trouble Steady our hearts when they
were weary and let this hard season draw

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our community close together We ask
this not because we deserve your favor,

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but because you are gracious and good in
the mighty name of Jesus Christ my Lord I

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ask all these things
Amen Thank you so much.

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Commissioner Barry. Will you lead us in the
pledge? Please join me in the pledge to

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our flag. I pledge allegiance

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Are there any items to be added
to the agenda commissioner Kohler commissioner Barry

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commissioner may No, Madam Chair, but just
for the record, I know that we're still

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in a state of emergency where the administrator
is, and I know there are some house

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cleaning things, and I do agree with you.
This is a very critical meeting to inform

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citizens of what they have. I still have
citizens without lights. I have citizens

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that can't get out of their neighborhood,
and we have employees that I think would

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be better served out in the community
helping them, so I hope that there's not

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essential items that are going to take
a long time to keep us away from my

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constituents.

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the state.

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And I think that's a good thing. I think
that's a good thing. I think that's a good

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thing. I think that's a good thing. I
think that's a good thing. I think that's a

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good thing. I think that's a good thing. I
think that's a good thing. I think that's

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a good thing. I think that's a good
thing. I think that's a good thing.

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I think that's a good thing. I think
that's a good thing. I think that's a good

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thing. I think that's a good thing. I
think that's a good thing. I think that's a

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good thing. I think that's a good thing. I
think that's a good thing. I think that's

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a good thing. I think that's a good
thing. I think that's a good thing.

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I think that's a good thing. I think
that's a good thing. I think that's a good

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thing. I think that's a good thing. I
think that's a good thing. I think that's All

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in favor? My vote? Thank you. I appreciate
it. Thank you, Jose. Commissioner Fuller.

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Yeah, good morning and thank you all for
being here. I'm not going to say too much

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this morning because
we have a lot to cover.

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I just want to thank the first time
I talked about the Navy Federal Credit Union and

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the Armed Forces YMCA. Met with them
the day before the hurricane and they're trying

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to look at different options to help
I appreciate Navy federal working with them and

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our community and we'll see what happens
with that I've seen October 13th 1775 was

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the Navy was installed 251 years ago as a
sailor and I know Commissioner Stroh we're

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grateful for the United States Navy Want
to talk a little bit about the hurricane

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for a second.

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I know there's a lot of people hurting out
there I didn't give power till yesterday

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I know that the people that are still
struggling, there's a lot of them out there.

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We're getting into emails and phone calls
every day. I just want you to know we're

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hearing you. We're trying to help the
linemen that are out there working their tails

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off. I know there's been some critical
comments from FPL, but those folks are

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working hard and we need to thank them.

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Hurricanes suck, death sucks, things
like that happen, but it brings people

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together, right? And I was thinking the
other day, the first person that actually

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died was a gal named Jared Williams.

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And she worked. It was a gal named Becky
Biggs' daughter. And she was a medical

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assistant in the ICU. And
Cheryl and I knew her well.

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It was just a freak accident. The tree filled
on her and she died. And I feel sorry

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for Becky and I'm really sorry
that she lost her daughter.

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My thoughts are with you. Keith Bow. Keith,
I'm sorry I talked to you two days ago.

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Keith, and I don't always agree, he's been
a pretty good ally of mine. But he's in

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the burn unit. He's doing pretty good.

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Lost his two cats. His wife's living somewhere.
But you look at stuff like that and

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you say, we have a responsibility as
a community to help each other out.

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So I go back to something, a guy named
Matt Rings. He worked for him in his ex -so

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and he's not with us anymore either But he
had this patent patch made which is very

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personal for today. This has no one fights
alone Be strong and courageous and that's

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where we are today I want to thank every
one of our county employees that are

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working their tails off I was at EOC
several times and you'll see you work hard,

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but it's 6 30 the morning after
the hurricane There were road crew people working

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literally on live oak There were EMS trucks
going out four hours after a 200 calls.

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I can't think enough I know the other
commissioners are going to be highlighting

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that we're gonna get through this but
for the county staff and everyone working

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Thank you so much for you doing it matters
And if you need help cause we work We

423
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,740
work pretty much still midnight and we're
up early and so call our office if you

424
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:41,220
need some help. Thank you

425
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:49,440
Yes, ma 'am. Thank you Yeah, thoughts and
prayers go out to the Williams family so

426
00:44:49,870 --> 00:44:54,270
her husband and his family are friends
of our friends of our family and that's a

427
00:44:54,270 --> 00:45:00,970
terrible freak accident
tragedy and it's awful awful.

428
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:06,420
Some things for the for the community that
are happening so there's going to be a

429
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:11,440
food distribution today in the north end
at Ray's Chapel Baptist Church at Highland

430
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Baptist in Molino as well as Heritage
Baptist in Cantonment and those are being

431
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,230
sponsored through the Pensacola Bay
Baptist Institute. great organization and you

432
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:23,890
know working to working to get food
to folks that are still that are still

433
00:45:23,890 --> 00:45:28,910
struggling with You know with
personal circumstances Small Business Administration

434
00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:32,790
has also made zero interest emergency
bridge loans available to small businesses

435
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:39,230
that that need some funding in the
gap between either some assistance

436
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:45,900
or or insurance issues Also at the
University of West Florida in parking lot

437
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:52,710
B as in boy The Florida Department of
Financial Services has kind of tents

438
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:57,670
that are set up there, and there's
a couple dozen of the largest insurance companies

439
00:45:57,670 --> 00:46:02,610
that are in the state of Florida providing
property insurance, where if you have

440
00:46:02,610 --> 00:46:06,350
damage with your home or your business and
you want to see somebody face -to -face,

441
00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:11,870
if you go to the university, that's
from nine to four. It started yesterday,

442
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:16,290
I believe, and it's going to run for at
least some days. So if you can get the

443
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:20,010
university parking lot B and you want
to see someone that's representing an

444
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:25,130
insurance company that you that carries some
of your risk and ask him questions and

445
00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:30,270
you can bring photos and you're welcome
to bring your policy, bring photos of your

446
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:34,970
damage and you can talk to people and
maybe able to get I think everyone prefers an

447
00:46:34,970 --> 00:46:37,690
opportunity to talk to folks to face
to face if they have the opportunity.

448
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:43,350
And that does bring to light west. So
where? So we've made our submittal with our

449
00:46:43,350 --> 00:46:47,310
estimate to FEMA related to trying to hit
the threshold for individual assistance.

450
00:46:48,330 --> 00:46:51,210
Where's that process? We were meeting
on that yesterday. We made the PA.

451
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:55,470
We've passed that threshold. We were working
on the IA and we're continuing to work

452
00:46:55,470 --> 00:47:00,370
on the IA. And then we will submit that
to state, to the state, and we'll get that

453
00:47:00,370 --> 00:47:04,390
to the governor, and then we'll move
forward from there. What's the immediate,

454
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:09,190
just kind of feedback? do we think we're
going to hit that I think we can hit it

455
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:12,230
we're going to do it for the individual
system we're still doing some some assist

456
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:16,130
assessments for the individual assistance
but we're going to do everything we can to

457
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:19,910
hit it yes did they give you any kind of
timeline as to once it's submitted when we

458
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:22,910
may hear something that we don't have any
kind of timeline okay all right thank you

459
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:23,990
thank you madam chair

460
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,820
mr. may Thank you, Madam Chair and Commissioner
Berry. I think you and I were the

461
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:35,620
only ones here when we had the aftermath
of the debacle or the worksheets that were

462
00:47:35,620 --> 00:47:40,040
writing in terms of reimbursement and what
was there. So to be ahead of the game,

463
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:44,240
Wes, who's writing our worksheets and who's
representing us in terms of the public

464
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,500
assistance, individual assistance,
and our public adjusting just so we,

465
00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:52,120
you know, 12 months, 24 months from now
are making sure that we get our proper

466
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,010
reimbursement. Well, we're working with
FDM. for part of her emergency matter as

467
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:59,570
well as our FEMA consultant, Thompson
will be working with those two agencies.

468
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,280
Yeah, this the Sally process ended up going
much better than the floods from 14 on

469
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,920
the flood to horrible. Yeah, that was
the 2014 issues were dramatic and we we

470
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,460
brought in a very high profile high paid
consultant to help with those and they

471
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:23,270
wound up in the in the basement of
the building. Yeah, in some boxes You know years

472
00:48:23,270 --> 00:48:26,110
later they were discovered down there
side. Well the consultant hadn't worked out

473
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:29,670
too well But I mean we're gonna have a
public adjusting side to this where we're

474
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:32,930
gonna be looking at our buildings
where Certainly the insurance companies have never

475
00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:36,960
really been fair to governments or to
individuals. So we have a the public adjusting

476
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,200
side then we have a famous out on the
individual assistance and here's why

477
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,460
individual assistance is so critical. Well
we need to fill the gap we had you know

478
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:48,400
probably close to a hundred people waiting
for a roof. Now they're getting a tarp

479
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,480
and you know I'm sure there's a long line
with brace. But even if we give them a

480
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,720
tarp through the line they cannot
afford to put the top on their house.

481
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,700
And as we sit here today are people are
hurting people people can't afford to cut

482
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,880
down trees in their yard they're stuck in
the house the roads are stuck in you know.

483
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,720
from my position, Commissioner Berry, I
mean, we have to somewhat allocate some

484
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,920
dollars to help those people or do
something because I'm not sitting here waiting on

485
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,340
Pennsylvania Avenue or Capitol Circle
to come in and help my district that I

486
00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:19,120
represent. And so that's one of the
reasons I'm leaving today because people are

487
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,100
still hungry. I fit in Oakwood Terrace
Sunday and those kids hadn't had anything to

488
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:27,060
eat since the storm. Many people like
you and like a Mr. Mayor, most of these,

489
00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:30,400
we were talking starting school and these
kids and they have not even had a warm

490
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,070
shower. And I was one of those people. And
so, you know, We've had about 700 kids in

491
00:49:35,070 --> 00:49:38,570
Oakwood Terrace and many came out because
the tree was on their house. They didn't

492
00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:41,830
have shirts. They didn't have shoes. And
this is our community. And so I just want

493
00:49:41,830 --> 00:49:45,290
to make sure that, one, we're allocating
money, putting it there. Two, if there's an

494
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:48,430
opportunity to get reimbursement, you
know, and so we are in it. Thank you.

495
00:49:48,810 --> 00:49:50,910
We're in the state of emergency. And,
you know, that's one of the reasons,

496
00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:54,910
you know, me sitting in a long
meeting voting on things today that are insignificant

497
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:59,010
for the well -being of our citizens
is not something that I desire to do.

498
00:49:59,470 --> 00:50:01,950
So, you know, so. So, Wes,
if you're on top of it.

499
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:08,560
Yeah, Commissioner. We're on top of
it. We're meeting constantly. We're in constant

500
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,020
communication. We're on top of it. It's
great to have these meetings, but the

501
00:50:12,020 --> 00:50:12,700
community is hurting.

502
00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:19,470
I do want to thank brace for putting out
tarps. I want to thank Brownsville Church

503
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:25,330
We fed over thousands and thousands of people
we Marries thank you for your help in

504
00:50:25,330 --> 00:50:29,650
Pensacola Village in this in the city
which yesterday the children in Pensacola

505
00:50:29,650 --> 00:50:33,730
Village didn't have Lights or didn't have
food and Oakwood Terrace were able to get

506
00:50:33,730 --> 00:50:38,530
there in the Brownsville area. I'll assure
you that we're listening West just for

507
00:50:38,530 --> 00:50:42,730
the public. You know I've today I was
inundated starting at 3 30 this morning Is

508
00:50:42,730 --> 00:50:46,330
there water is there is are we not on a
ball and I know the city put on another

509
00:50:46,330 --> 00:50:50,090
ball. What's going on with the jail?
I mean is there power is there food?

510
00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:54,910
What's going on with the image has been
lifted? The jail is currently able to take

511
00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:58,890
hot showers and has has drinking water,
portable water, all the things so their back

512
00:50:58,890 --> 00:51:03,840
function and their back functioning. Yes,
OK, let's go. I do want to thank caring

513
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,720
hearts for their partnership in helping
us to get food. I do want to thank I tell

514
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:13,260
solution I had residents and we had many
of our community clinics that were closed

515
00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:17,340
and people had dialysis and couldn't get
rides couldn't get in and thank you and

516
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:21,660
your staff I know it wasn't it wasn't
billable But you guys went in places that

517
00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:27,100
nobody else could go in and got those
citizens to their dialysis and to their

518
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:32,900
doctors apartments and to all of our
community health into Baptist and those other

519
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,560
clinics and individual doctor offices,
you know, particularly within our district

520
00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:41,150
Thank you for opening up to see those
citizens who were sick. Commissioner Cola,

521
00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:43,850
thank you for your help in Brownsville. I
know it's been a very emotional time for

522
00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:49,190
you, but here's what I say. Disaster
has no color, it has no creed, it has no

523
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:52,830
political affiliation, it just has a need.

524
00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:56,930
And so I think that this is the time where
we separate all those things and go help

525
00:51:56,930 --> 00:52:01,370
our citizens. So I do appreciate
you showing up in Brownsville.

526
00:52:01,890 --> 00:52:05,350
Commissioner Kohler even when you
didn't even have liked yourself. I mean,

527
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:08,310
so I certainly appreciate it Thank
you. I have more to say madam chair,

528
00:52:08,330 --> 00:52:13,610
but for the experiences of time I'll
yield to you my colleague Thank You

529
00:52:13,610 --> 00:52:17,750
Commissioner Stuberger Thank You madam
chair. So let's start with veterans stand

530
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:22,050
down So a couple of Fridays ago the Gulf
Coast veterans advocacy council conducted

531
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:27,270
their annual veterans stand down at the
Brownsville Community Center What the Gulf

532
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:31,070
Coast veterans advocacy council does is
they bring services together in one place

533
00:52:31,070 --> 00:52:35,250
for veterans? They provide services
like food, clothing, legal help,

534
00:52:36,530 --> 00:52:40,810
employment assistance, and even haircuts.
Scott Lunsford was there, among other

535
00:52:40,810 --> 00:52:47,570
things. The tax collector's office was
helping vets obtain identification so they

536
00:52:47,570 --> 00:52:51,850
can apply for jobs. Pensacola State
College's cosmetology and barber program was

537
00:52:51,850 --> 00:52:54,910
there, and they looked at me and they said,
what a mess, we got to cut your hair.

538
00:52:55,690 --> 00:52:59,490
So they got to it. This is, yeah.

539
00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:04,050
To my right, there's another photograph.

540
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:13,080
Okay, to my right is Sarah Pettis and
to my left is Reena Kilmore and Kim

541
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,040
Marwick is their
instructor on the far left.

542
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,940
When they were done, I asked how much I
owe you and I think I heard Chip Simmons say

543
00:53:23,940 --> 00:53:29,640
$2 million from out in
the audience. So, yeah.

544
00:53:32,290 --> 00:53:38,200
Thank you very much for for for the
haircut making us all look sharp On Saturday is

545
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:44,800
girls in Aviation Day That's at
the National Naval Aviation Museum Saturday morning.

546
00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:50,880
It's a hands -on event at the National
Museum that introduces girls ages 8 to 18 to

547
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,080
aviation careers It's organized by the
women in aviation International Gulf Coast

548
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:55,540
chapter

549
00:53:56,940 --> 00:54:01,900
and also it's presented by the
Naval Aviation Museum Foundation. So registration for

550
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:04,840
that is closed, but I think if you give
them a call, you might be able to get in

551
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,260
there still.

552
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,720
MARKS, a multi -agency resource
center. So there's two of those coming,

553
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:15,880
I'm sorry, yeah, there's two already here.
I got notice just before I got ready to

554
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,540
speak. MARK is a multi
-agency resource center.

555
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,000
It's a temporary one -stop location
for disaster survivors to meet.

556
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,160
with several agencies and relief
organizations that get recovery assistance.

557
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:34,080
Florida coordinates these centers with
local emergency management and participating

558
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,980
partners. So two of them will be here.
One's gonna be at the Bayview Senior Citizen

559
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,820
Center. The other one's gonna be at
the Salvation Army Community Center.

560
00:54:44,850 --> 00:54:49,910
In addition, there's three feeding
locations and they are at Greater Truvine,

561
00:54:50,050 --> 00:54:56,270
130 North, Pace Boulevard and we'll post
this we'll post all this information to the

562
00:54:56,270 --> 00:55:03,140
pilgrim Lodge Baptist Church at 7000
Jefferson Avenue in Century and Echo

563
00:55:03,140 --> 00:55:09,850
Life Church at 3850 North
Davis Highway Okay, so

564
00:55:09,980 --> 00:55:16,160
hurricane Isa Isa Isa, yeah,

565
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,180
yeah So I want to begin by thanking Eric
Travis Scotland the rest of the county

566
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:26,620
staff who helped the scambia County
prepared for and respond to hurricane?

567
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:34,480
Is a isa The public doesn't get
to see how these guys and girls

568
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,380
and the county team Work in action and I
think if you did if you were at the EOC

569
00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:45,090
you'd be pretty proud Our emergency
management staff the team at the emergency

570
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:50,210
operations center first responders public
Works employees dispatchers shelter

571
00:55:50,210 --> 00:55:54,510
workers all deserve our appreciation These
are people with homes and families of

572
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:58,950
their own and they're serving the public
during a hurricane That means that they're

573
00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:01,790
carrying those worries with them
while they're helping others.

574
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,760
I Went home on Friday night not knowing
I might be putting myself in danger and

575
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,380
because of that possibly putting rescue
yours rescuers in danger You know possibly

576
00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:18,150
to help me Told our public safety director
about what happened on my way home Eric

577
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:21,450
Gilmore and of course he
gave me the business So

578
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:26,870
I apologize first for making that decision
to go home. I'm not putting up put

579
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:32,950
anybody at risk I Must have been hungry or
something. That's why I left I also want

580
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:36,790
to thank utility crews health care
workers Red Cross volunteers and our many

581
00:56:36,790 --> 00:56:41,250
neighbors who stepped up I saw that spirit
firsthand after leaving the emergency

582
00:56:41,250 --> 00:56:46,990
operations center, traveling west on I -10
near exit five, an 18 -wheeler overturned

583
00:56:46,990 --> 00:56:51,370
in front of me. I stopped to check on the
driver and the other motor, and there were

584
00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:57,070
other motors that stopped to help too.
Curtis Matthews from Bula used a small

585
00:56:57,070 --> 00:57:01,170
sledgehammer that another driver provided
to break the windshield so we could get

586
00:57:01,170 --> 00:57:06,290
the driver out. We put him in a car, and
I took him to the HCA emergency room in

587
00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:06,630
Bula.

588
00:57:08,170 --> 00:57:11,860
Curtis, can you stand up? This is
Curtis. Thank you very much, Curtis.

589
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,720
I think what stays with me is the most
is how quickly Curtis and the others step

590
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,500
forward. Curtis, the other motorists, and
the medical team who treated the driver

591
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:31,760
deserve our thanks. That experience also
reinforces how dangerous conditions can be

592
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,480
and they can become. Treaty debris and
downed power lines can turn a familiar road

593
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,890
into a life -threatening situation. So
please take emergency warnings seriously and

594
00:57:41,890 --> 00:57:45,610
give response crews room to work. This
is, and I can't say his name either,

595
00:57:45,690 --> 00:57:46,990
but I'm calling them Cortez.

596
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:52,470
This is him in the hospital. He went in on
the 10th and went to the trauma center in

597
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:56,830
Sacred Heart on the 11th. He's still
there now. He was in surgery yesterday,

598
00:57:56,930 --> 00:58:00,530
I think. I saw him the day before that.
And I think he's getting out in a couple

599
00:58:00,530 --> 00:58:04,070
days. I'm going to go visit him. This is
a picture with me, but he wants to get a

600
00:58:04,070 --> 00:58:08,030
picture with you, too. So we're going
to go down there together and see him.

601
00:58:08,050 --> 00:58:09,550
I'm sure he wants to say thank you to you.

602
00:58:11,350 --> 00:58:16,460
What else? So to everyone who served
volunteered and checked on a neighbor or helped

603
00:58:16,460 --> 00:58:21,000
a stranger Thank you and to our residents
still deal dealing with the aftermath your

604
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,160
needs remain our priority as scambi County
recovers Are we gonna put that video on?

605
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:32,480
I? Okay, I'd like you to see this video
these two videos are from inside the truck

606
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,040
This is him in the truck driving

607
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,920
So I had first thought maybe he was trying
to avoid a tree because that's what I was

608
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,580
doing I was dodging trees out there,
too and then After talking with Curtis,

609
00:58:56,580 --> 00:59:00,800
you know, it looked more like
the wind blew him over So

610
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,220
he tips over and he starts sliding probably
I don't know how many feet that is 20

611
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:21,960
feet or so He's up against the
his door. The glass is broken.

612
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,900
He's got He's got asphalt and
glass embedded in his arm.

613
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:31,200
He's a mess His head's bleeding, but I don't
see a head injury when I see him at the

614
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,400
hospital So he must have just bumped his
head, but he was in pretty bad shape.

615
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,620
I think he had two fractured ribs He's
really thankful and I'm thankful for you for

616
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:43,240
you Curtis. Thank you That's
it. That's all I got. Thank you.

617
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,060
There's a proclamation to
come to for that Thank you.

618
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:53,500
Good morning. And thank you for being here
today I know that our entire community is

619
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:57,520
recovering from the storm and I want to say
thank you to everyone who has put in the

620
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,513
time and the energy and the effort to Our
families and our neighbors begin to return

621
01:00:02,513 --> 01:00:07,293
to normal our first responders Everybody
in our community our health care workers

622
01:00:07,293 --> 01:00:11,873
every single person on county staff I know
you guys worked more than double overtime

623
01:00:11,873 --> 01:00:16,393
to make sure that our community had the
resources that they need our dispatch

624
01:00:16,393 --> 01:00:23,273
answered over 3,800 calls immediately
prior to and following the storm Every

625
01:00:23,273 --> 01:00:27,693
single call was answered every single person
received help so thank you to our team

626
01:00:27,693 --> 01:00:32,923
for such a well -planned out and
excellent executed response Also want to

627
01:00:32,923 --> 01:00:39,743
acknowledge deputy harder and our EMS
supervisor JT when Winford for volunteering to

628
01:00:39,743 --> 01:00:43,923
accompany medical director Dr. Ben a
bow despite constant life -threatening

629
01:00:43,923 --> 01:00:48,303
conditions wins and power lines and flying
debris they left in the middle of the

630
01:00:48,303 --> 01:00:54,683
storm to deliver a baby and Baby and mama
are doing just fine and I would go to bat

631
01:00:54,683 --> 01:00:58,423
That's probably the only baby delivered
by a bunch of men wearing helmets to make

632
01:00:58,423 --> 01:01:02,873
sure that they did not get hit by
debris so Thank you for doing that.

633
01:01:03,393 --> 01:01:07,433
I also want to emphasize we do still
have the Citizen Hotline up and going.

634
01:01:07,993 --> 01:01:13,093
So take out a pin, write down
this number. It's 850 -471

635
01:01:13,093 --> 01:01:16,653
-6600.

636
01:01:17,293 --> 01:01:22,293
That's 850 -471 -6600.

637
01:01:22,933 --> 01:01:27,073
We will help you get plugged into
resources. We can take down tickets.

638
01:01:27,213 --> 01:01:30,873
We can get the proper department's dispatch, and
we will get the help that you need.

639
01:01:31,353 --> 01:01:36,233
That will also help us streamline our
response. I thought this meeting was important

640
01:01:36,233 --> 01:01:39,913
today because we have a lot of things to
celebrate. Our community came together.

641
01:01:40,373 --> 01:01:44,773
People work together to save lives. And
when we're in the midst of everything,

642
01:01:44,853 --> 01:01:49,393
I think it's important that we take time,
and we do celebrate those things because

643
01:01:49,393 --> 01:01:53,043
they are... Important that the
community knows that on our agenda.

644
01:01:53,043 --> 01:01:57,823
We have quite a few things to celebrate
We continue our partnership with local

645
01:01:57,823 --> 01:02:02,163
hospitals to maintain the best possible
care for patients and making sure that our

646
01:02:02,163 --> 01:02:07,083
entire Community has better patient outcomes
We are partnering with Pensacola mess

647
01:02:07,083 --> 01:02:10,623
hall to allow them to use our facilities
to encourage kids to learn more about

648
01:02:10,623 --> 01:02:16,763
science Their science in the street program
starts on October 30th We are receiving

649
01:02:16,763 --> 01:02:20,543
a 1 million dollar grant for the carbon
to Creek and Bayou Tahara restoration

650
01:02:20,543 --> 01:02:26,723
projects We continue to keep our waterways
safe and clean and partnership with FWC

651
01:02:26,723 --> 01:02:31,403
We're removing a few derelict vessels that
we're voting on today We're helping our

652
01:02:31,403 --> 01:02:35,463
ecosystem, our fishing industry, and our
dive tourism by installing more artificial

653
01:02:35,463 --> 01:02:39,683
reefs. And we have received restore
dollars to begin the much needed drainage

654
01:02:39,683 --> 01:02:44,723
project inside of Ellis and Industrial Park. So
I know that Joy and her entire team

655
01:02:44,723 --> 01:02:48,783
have worked so hard on this. So thank
you so much for getting that going.

656
01:02:49,423 --> 01:02:54,513
We are investing money in the miracle leave.
playground at John R Jones Park and we

657
01:02:54,513 --> 01:02:58,873
have a purchase order for the construction
of the Myrtle Grove fire station We have

658
01:02:58,873 --> 01:03:03,853
a cost -sharing agreement between us and
ECU a for upgrades for the olive road and

659
01:03:03,853 --> 01:03:08,563
Paula Fox area So these are things that
Despite the storm coming in that everybody

660
01:03:08,563 --> 01:03:12,503
on the county team has still been working
hard to make happen These highlights touch

661
01:03:12,503 --> 01:03:16,223
almost every department in the county
and it is a reminder that when things are

662
01:03:16,223 --> 01:03:20,243
crazy and the storm is closing in our
team has never stopped working for our

663
01:03:20,243 --> 01:03:24,183
community So I want to say thank you. Thank
you so much from the bottom of my heart

664
01:03:24,183 --> 01:03:28,103
And then from just the community members
I've talked to they send their things as

665
01:03:28,103 --> 01:03:32,663
well. Thank you, madam
chair I got one more thing

666
01:03:34,043 --> 01:03:37,963
So I was thinking to myself about this
hurricane and that I think it brings

667
01:03:37,963 --> 01:03:43,083
amendment three back into focus. It'll
make future storm recoveries and I'm not

668
01:03:43,083 --> 01:03:47,163
advocating, Madam Attorney, I just wanna point
out some facts. It'll make our future

669
01:03:47,163 --> 01:03:51,523
storm recoveries I think a little bit
more difficult, harder to finance.

670
01:03:52,403 --> 01:03:58,423
The county still has to pay its local share.
I think for Sally it was more than 12%

671
01:03:58,423 --> 01:04:02,353
of the eligible debris collection
costs. Before we receive reimbursement,

672
01:04:02,493 --> 01:04:07,133
we got to pay invoices to contractors
emergency and for emergency purchases and

673
01:04:07,133 --> 01:04:10,473
eligible expenses are entirely our
responsibility here at the county and your

674
01:04:10,473 --> 01:04:14,733
responsibility if we borrow from lost or
from the solid waste fund as we've done in

675
01:04:14,733 --> 01:04:18,833
the past It could delay road
and stormwater projects and other planned improvements.

676
01:04:19,273 --> 01:04:24,673
We still have to fund normal operations
While the storm expenses accumulate if we

677
01:04:24,673 --> 01:04:29,053
lack funding we might have to borrow
money. That's an additional cost of course

678
01:04:29,053 --> 01:04:33,163
after spending a on an emergency we
have less money for recurring revenue to rebuild

679
01:04:33,163 --> 01:04:33,703
our reserves.

680
01:04:35,003 --> 01:04:39,983
And what if another storm comes before we
get reimbursed? It's happened before in

681
01:04:39,983 --> 01:04:43,923
1995 we had Aaron and Opal, or Opal and
Aaron, I don't know which one came first,

682
01:04:43,983 --> 01:04:47,603
but they were just two months apart.
So something to think about, thank you.

683
01:04:48,643 --> 01:04:53,503
Madam Chair. Yes, sir. And so I want to
be on record here, and Commissioner Berry,

684
01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:56,883
there's a lot to your leadership. We have
the healthiest reserves that we've ever

685
01:04:56,883 --> 01:05:02,723
had, probably in the last 25 years of this
county. Our reserves are very healthy and

686
01:05:02,723 --> 01:05:07,513
we can sustain. you know this storm,
mother storms and it's because I think that

687
01:05:07,513 --> 01:05:12,293
leadership of our administration and
Stephen that we've been good stewards,

688
01:05:12,493 --> 01:05:17,033
we've been fiscally conservative and we
have, you can correct me Wes, we have the

689
01:05:17,033 --> 01:05:20,973
cash flow to go on and that's why I
take the position that we're not waiting on FEMA

690
01:05:20,973 --> 01:05:24,593
to take our citizens of Escamu County
because the reason you have a rainy day

691
01:05:24,593 --> 01:05:27,973
account, the reason you have savings and
you do cutback is for times like this and

692
01:05:27,973 --> 01:05:32,393
so Wes, I know you are certainly in
charge but please put forth the dollars.

693
01:05:32,833 --> 01:05:36,673
On the ground that we've been saving for
for days like this We often say that we

694
01:05:36,673 --> 01:05:41,173
want to build these reserves for
emergencies and catastrophes and this is an

695
01:05:41,173 --> 01:05:46,303
emergency It's a catastrophe and people
are hurting and we have the money Agreed.

696
01:05:46,383 --> 01:05:50,323
Yes, sir. And what's I think you wanted
to do a recap and let the community know

697
01:05:50,323 --> 01:05:53,683
some information as well Sure,
Commissioner mayor. You're exactly right.

698
01:05:53,703 --> 01:05:58,683
We've never waited on FEMA before we
respond and address issues now we do can't

699
01:05:58,683 --> 01:06:03,083
remember your first but yet kraha kraha
saw the teas that all the eyes but no I've

700
01:06:03,083 --> 01:06:08,743
responded to every major event hurricane
park chocolate storm landfill fire I storm

701
01:06:08,743 --> 01:06:14,363
will you name it since hurricane Aaron I've
been in the field of industry I've been

702
01:06:14,363 --> 01:06:19,513
in the OC I've been in all parts of the
response and I will tell you that response

703
01:06:19,513 --> 01:06:24,573
for this hurricane is probably the best
that I've ever seen and been a part of it

704
01:06:24,573 --> 01:06:29,343
here in the game the county. I've been in
the emergency operations center when I'll

705
01:06:29,343 --> 01:06:33,463
be honest with you, it just was a little
chaotic. And that's putting it mildly.

706
01:06:34,243 --> 01:06:38,963
But I'm proud of our staff. I'm proud of
our folks that run emergency management,

707
01:06:39,483 --> 01:06:44,333
the staff that manned the emergency
operations center. Not just county staff,

708
01:06:44,453 --> 01:06:48,683
we have our community partners in there
as well. Everybody worked harmoniously.

709
01:06:49,463 --> 01:06:52,923
Everybody was... I'm not going to say
they were happy to be there, but they were

710
01:06:52,923 --> 01:06:56,603
very pleasant. They were very pleasant
with each other. They did a great thing.

711
01:06:56,983 --> 01:06:58,243
Well, you know, you got
to be somewhere, right?

712
01:06:59,703 --> 01:07:04,283
But everybody was very pleasant. They
did a fantastic job. Everybody was seeing

713
01:07:04,283 --> 01:07:08,463
passionate about what they were
there to do. And it made my job easy.

714
01:07:08,823 --> 01:07:14,043
You can ask folks, I'm not a micro manager.
If I got good folks in the right slot to

715
01:07:14,043 --> 01:07:17,473
doing the right things. I'm going to
observe. I'll be there to give direction.

716
01:07:17,653 --> 01:07:22,433
I'll be there to answer questions. I'll be
there to support. But I didn't have to do

717
01:07:22,433 --> 01:07:26,953
a whole lot. I'll be honest with you. Eric
and Travis, if you want to go ahead and

718
01:07:26,953 --> 01:07:31,813
come up, I'll let you expound a little
bit. But they did a fantastic job running

719
01:07:31,813 --> 01:07:36,693
this emergency response. They really did.
I've never seen it done quite this way.

720
01:07:42,273 --> 01:07:44,293
But they did fantastically well.

721
01:07:46,433 --> 01:07:53,333
I mean, in the height of the storm, We had
EMS crews out in the height of the storm

722
01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:57,053
had public works crews out when the
storm was still pushing through.

723
01:07:57,613 --> 01:08:02,893
And immediately following is been stated.
Our crews were out on the ground all night

724
01:08:02,893 --> 01:08:07,313
long. They didn't come back after the
initial response at 9 o 'clock or 830 they

725
01:08:07,313 --> 01:08:11,933
stayed out in it all the way around the
clock to about noon the next day before they

726
01:08:11,933 --> 01:08:16,293
took a break and came in and they were
right back at that afternoon. I mean the

727
01:08:16,293 --> 01:08:22,973
dedication the hard work. But the
coordination and the planning prior to is

728
01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:27,653
something I've not seen us do previously.
We've tried, I think, but we've never

729
01:08:27,653 --> 01:08:32,353
quite succeeded. I think part of the reason
is if you got a good emergency manager,

730
01:08:32,513 --> 01:08:36,133
you got a good public safety director,
let them do what they do. Be there,

731
01:08:36,193 --> 01:08:40,333
support them, answer the questions, do what you
do, play my role, but they ran the

732
01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:44,013
show. There's no doubt about it. And,
Larrick, I'll let you expand from there.

733
01:08:44,553 --> 01:08:47,133
I don't want to take too long because
a lot has been highlighted already,

734
01:08:47,433 --> 01:08:51,793
but first and foremost, I just want
to say I just did my job. That's it.

735
01:08:51,893 --> 01:08:55,833
You asked me to do a job, and this
is my job title and my scope of work,

736
01:08:55,893 --> 01:08:59,933
and I did my job first and foremost. I put
a lot of pressure on that man right there

737
01:08:59,933 --> 01:09:05,183
and his team. They succeeded. They did a
fantastic job in distributing information

738
01:09:05,183 --> 01:09:09,763
and getting the room orchestrated. And I
can't say enough about the EOC staff that

739
01:09:09,763 --> 01:09:13,863
was in there. County employees, non
-county employees, everybody who supported us,

740
01:09:13,863 --> 01:09:17,743
it was passionate. It was very, we was
communicating really well. Things were

741
01:09:17,743 --> 01:09:23,743
clicking in a room. It was, I just can't
express the feel of the room and the mood

742
01:09:23,743 --> 01:09:27,623
was calm. In the out of storm,
it was calm. I'm not kidding you.

743
01:09:27,883 --> 01:09:31,343
And I've never been in an EOC or an
activation where the room stayed calm.

744
01:09:32,093 --> 01:09:37,453
Focus, head down, get the work done. The
second thing I want to say is you guys

745
01:09:37,453 --> 01:09:42,133
helped us out. And the reason I say
that is you guys didn't come to the OC.

746
01:09:42,953 --> 01:09:46,253
You let us do our work. When we needed
to hear from you, we heard from you.

747
01:09:46,393 --> 01:09:50,273
And I appreciate that. I appreciate
that. You didn't throw roadblocks, monkey

748
01:09:50,273 --> 01:09:53,993
wrenches. You said that we got it. And if
we didn't have it and we heard from you,

749
01:09:54,113 --> 01:09:59,113
then guess what? We needed to hear from you.
Because of that you let us do our work

750
01:09:59,113 --> 01:10:04,393
and that's why we were so so much faster,
so I appreciate the board trusting us to

751
01:10:04,393 --> 01:10:09,653
do this. That means a lot to us. You don't
you know, you have no idea. So but I do

752
01:10:09,653 --> 01:10:13,393
want to highlight our emergency services
staff because those guys, there's men and

753
01:10:13,393 --> 01:10:17,753
women that night, Friday night, I couldn't
have been more proud to see that line of

754
01:10:17,753 --> 01:10:21,653
ambulances ready to go to see here. The
fire crews out there communicating what's

755
01:10:21,653 --> 01:10:26,233
up, what's down, how we're getting there.
Dispatchers got their butts handed to him

756
01:10:26,233 --> 01:10:30,763
in the during the storm and it's just
heartbreaking to tell them that I'm sorry we

757
01:10:30,763 --> 01:10:35,323
can't come to you right now. It's unsafe
for our crews. We'll put you on a list.

758
01:10:35,963 --> 01:10:38,883
Somebody taking that emergency call,
that's heartbreaking. My dispatchers,

759
01:10:39,263 --> 01:10:43,523
it wears on you emotionally and they did
a phenomenal job. They logged those calls,

760
01:10:43,723 --> 01:10:47,383
they prioritized those calls and then
as soon as we could get out there,

761
01:10:47,783 --> 01:10:51,363
our dispatchers pushed hard and fast.
Our fire crews pushed hard and fast.

762
01:10:52,163 --> 01:10:55,123
EMS pushed hard and fast and then
Jamie's crew, on top of that because,

763
01:10:55,523 --> 01:10:58,763
you know, Those guys get out there,
cleared the road so the fire trucks,

764
01:10:58,883 --> 01:11:02,983
EMS units can get out there. On top of
that, Chip Simmons and his crew coordinate

765
01:11:02,983 --> 01:11:06,803
with the sheriff's office and what are
you seeing? What's up? What's down?

766
01:11:06,883 --> 01:11:10,943
Don't go that way, power lines. It
was orchestrated chaos. Absolutely.

767
01:11:11,083 --> 01:11:15,803
That's the best way I can describe it. But
I still go back to you guys letting us do

768
01:11:15,803 --> 01:11:19,643
the job that you hired us to do, and
I appreciate that and having the faith in us to

769
01:11:19,643 --> 01:11:23,513
do what we need to do. That means a lot
to us. I'm going to get over Travis real

770
01:11:23,513 --> 01:11:27,073
quick and let him talk about the room
itself and the coordination. And the last

771
01:11:27,073 --> 01:11:32,413
thing I want to say is I do appreciate the
businesses and the retail stores and the

772
01:11:32,413 --> 01:11:36,973
volunteer groups. They hit us less than 24
hours after landfill, less than 12 hours

773
01:11:36,973 --> 01:11:40,353
getting in the community and coordinating
through us and helping us help you and

774
01:11:40,353 --> 01:11:44,493
help the citizens. Getting us back up as
fast as we can. That's the name of the

775
01:11:44,493 --> 01:11:48,853
game. We want to get back to some sense of
normalcy and get the resources out to the

776
01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:50,473
people who need it. That's what we do.

777
01:11:56,793 --> 01:12:01,313
So I just really want to just touch on a
few things but one thing personally that I

778
01:12:01,313 --> 01:12:06,093
wanted to say was that when Eric brought
me up here It's been a little over four

779
01:12:06,093 --> 01:12:12,673
years ago now as the emergency manager I
said I said right here that to me emergency

780
01:12:12,673 --> 01:12:19,133
management public safety and to me personally is
a ministry I look at it that I

781
01:12:19,133 --> 01:12:24,613
serve the people of this county as best
that I possibly can to serve God And that's,

782
01:12:24,793 --> 01:12:28,593
and when you're serving God, you're gonna
do the right thing and you're gonna get

783
01:12:28,593 --> 01:12:32,793
people served. And that's what's
happened. The Emergency Operations Center,

784
01:12:32,993 --> 01:12:37,473
as it's already been stated, the folks
that are in there, they became emergency

785
01:12:37,473 --> 01:12:41,233
managers. I mean, they really did. I mean,
it was like they were just an extension

786
01:12:41,233 --> 01:12:47,303
of our team. I mean, it was, I mean, they,
Every operation has you know issues that

787
01:12:47,303 --> 01:12:50,303
you work through that's why we have after
-action reviews And that's why we make it

788
01:12:50,303 --> 01:12:55,043
even better You know from our deployments
from our other times of activating the EUC

789
01:12:55,043 --> 01:12:59,703
you take what works What doesn't work
and you make a better plan and I think we

790
01:12:59,703 --> 01:13:04,023
executed and I'm just very very thankful
For every single person that was in there.

791
01:13:04,023 --> 01:13:07,383
I have so I had a list of names that I was
gonna read off But it's almost everybody

792
01:13:07,383 --> 01:13:11,883
in that that room so I'm not gonna do that
But but I did want to give an update to I

793
01:13:11,883 --> 01:13:17,503
know that every one of you are getting
calls from citizens crisis cleanup is the one

794
01:13:17,503 --> 01:13:22,483
and only number really really want to get
out there to folks that are needing stuff

795
01:13:22,483 --> 01:13:29,363
taken off their house or help with
a debris and that's 800 -451 -1954.

796
01:13:30,063 --> 01:13:34,063
So we're really getting that number out
as much as we possibly can. There's Dozens

797
01:13:34,063 --> 01:13:38,423
and dozens of organizations in our
community right now that are here that are

798
01:13:38,423 --> 01:13:42,603
already answering those tickets that are
being put in. You might not hear something

799
01:13:42,603 --> 01:13:47,063
initially. It may take up just a little
bit for somebody to get back with you,

800
01:13:47,303 --> 01:13:53,993
but they are actively in our community
right now serving. The other is that the I

801
01:13:53,993 --> 01:14:00,933
.A. individual assistance right now.
Those are the we we provided that data to

802
01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:05,733
the state and so we actually have state
and federal partners right now that are

803
01:14:05,733 --> 01:14:10,553
doing in a joint assessment right now they
started that last night they finished the

804
01:14:10,553 --> 01:14:16,073
PA assessment yesterday we we
were good to go on that I.A.

805
01:14:16,093 --> 01:14:21,453
they are back again with additional teams
today canvassing and we're working very

806
01:14:21,453 --> 01:14:26,913
very hard. to get that individual assistance.
So those numbers should be wrapped up

807
01:14:26,913 --> 01:14:30,853
today and we'll certainly be reporting out
as soon as we find out more information

808
01:14:30,853 --> 01:14:34,453
on that. But again, thank you again,
as Eric said, for your support.

809
01:14:35,353 --> 01:14:37,573
It's been phenomenal. Thank you.

810
01:14:42,553 --> 01:14:46,313
Casey has something she wants to
share with the commission as well.

811
01:14:47,553 --> 01:14:51,533
Good morning. We'll be very brief. We do
have a quick It's about a two -minute video

812
01:14:51,533 --> 01:14:55,633
to show a highlight video But I do want
to give a shout out to Nathan Nickerson on

813
01:14:55,633 --> 01:15:00,753
my team who did this video He just hit his
90 days with us and this is his first EOC

814
01:15:00,753 --> 01:15:07,053
activation And then a quick shout out to
my whole PIO team Andy Gibson James Briones

815
01:15:07,053 --> 01:15:11,133
Nathan Nickerson and Dan Callahan could
not have done this without them We've been

816
01:15:11,133 --> 01:15:15,273
working around the clock to get information
out. So with that Nathan, I'll let you

817
01:15:15,273 --> 01:15:16,873
cue up the video. We

818
01:17:01,133 --> 01:17:04,783
work really hard here, really hard.
It's been long. It's been fast.

819
01:17:05,443 --> 01:17:08,443
This group behind me, I'm gonna tell
you what folks, the Scambi County,

820
01:17:08,903 --> 01:17:13,223
y 'all have no idea what you have here.
And I put this group against anybody in the

821
01:17:13,223 --> 01:17:16,643
state of Florida. I've deployed to a lot
of disasters. And let me tell you from the

822
01:17:16,643 --> 01:17:21,523
group here, the leadership here to the
room out there, I am so proud of how far

823
01:17:21,523 --> 01:17:25,023
we've come and how fast we've gotten
here and with the help of everybody here.

824
01:17:25,063 --> 01:17:28,603
So you ought to be proud about what
you have here representing you in Scambi County

825
01:17:28,603 --> 01:17:30,303
and the people working for you.

826
01:17:37,203 --> 01:17:42,523
Madam chair. I also want to I got
an update from David Eden about customers from

827
01:17:42,523 --> 01:17:48,323
that are still without power There are 750
is can be customers that are that don't

828
01:17:48,323 --> 01:17:53,583
have power right now. That's down from
168 thousand eight hundred and sixty and

829
01:17:53,583 --> 01:17:56,663
they'll get the power on I want to thank
David and the whole FPL team. I think

830
01:17:56,663 --> 01:18:00,763
they've done a great job.
Thank you Thank you All right.

831
01:18:00,763 --> 01:18:05,133
Thank you everyone Next we're gonna
move into proclamations. We do have two

832
01:18:05,133 --> 01:18:08,933
proclamations Do I have a motion to adopt
and ratify the proclamations listed on the

833
01:18:08,933 --> 01:18:12,973
agenda Madam chair? I move the adoption
and ratification of the proclamations.

834
01:18:12,973 --> 01:18:18,283
Can I get a second all in
favor? Five -oh, thank you Thank

835
01:18:39,533 --> 01:18:43,813
you. Madam chair, and it is an honor to be
able to present this proclamation to One

836
01:18:43,813 --> 01:18:48,173
of the most outstanding citizens to ever
be here in this game the county family y

837
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:52,673
'all can join him if y 'all like to come
up And so Eric, let me just say before I

838
01:18:52,673 --> 01:18:58,573
read this as a kid I grew up right out
here going to CMP bank and you know in in

839
01:18:58,573 --> 01:19:02,913
those crisis When it was very difficult
for African American contractors to get

840
01:19:02,913 --> 01:19:07,453
loans My dad could walk in and get a
signature loan from you so he could feed his

841
01:19:07,453 --> 01:19:11,433
children and continue his business And I
never forget it. He didn't even have to

842
01:19:11,433 --> 01:19:15,353
fill out paperwork. He just come and
say where's Eric and so I will always

843
01:19:17,333 --> 01:19:21,833
something special to my mom and you're
very special to my dad and very special to

844
01:19:21,833 --> 01:19:22,493
this community.

845
01:19:24,873 --> 01:19:28,933
Where is... Eric J. Nicholson is an
outstanding member of the local community that

846
01:19:28,933 --> 01:19:33,073
has dedicated many years of service to the
continued improvement and well -being of

847
01:19:33,073 --> 01:19:36,813
his neighbors and fellow
residents. Whereas in 1966, Mr.

848
01:19:37,113 --> 01:19:41,233
Nicholson started his successful career
in banking at the Historic Citizens and

849
01:19:41,233 --> 01:19:46,753
Peoples National Bank, where he ultimately
served as president from 1986 and later

850
01:19:46,753 --> 01:19:51,273
in 1990 became its president, chief
executive offer, and chairman of the board.

851
01:19:51,643 --> 01:19:56,603
Whereas after acquisition of Citizens
and Peoples National Bank by Bank South,

852
01:19:57,143 --> 01:20:00,523
Michael Nicholson became the regional
president of Bank South and later led

853
01:20:00,523 --> 01:20:05,163
operations of the Northwest Florida Burnett Bank.
He was appointed to the board for

854
01:20:05,163 --> 01:20:09,163
Burnett Bank Trust Company before
retiring from active banking in 1999.

855
01:20:10,043 --> 01:20:14,083
Whereas Mr. Nicholson was elected to the
Whitney National Bank board in New Orleans

856
01:20:14,083 --> 01:20:18,573
and was later named the first lead director
in the history of the 100 -year -old

857
01:20:18,573 --> 01:20:23,113
institution after merger with the Hancock
Bank. He was elected as the director for

858
01:20:23,113 --> 01:20:27,233
the Hancock -Whitney Corporation
before retiring from the board in 2019.

859
01:20:28,013 --> 01:20:31,173
Whereas after leaving the banking industry,
he became involved in many real estate

860
01:20:31,173 --> 01:20:36,513
transactions, including NNGS development,
a healthcare and residential developer for

861
01:20:36,513 --> 01:20:40,283
the Northwest Florida and South
Alabama areas. Whereas Mr.

862
01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:44,663
Nicholson has served in various volunteer
roles within organizations that have

863
01:20:44,663 --> 01:20:48,623
helped advance our community and overall
interests such as economic development,

864
01:20:48,883 --> 01:20:53,143
social service, health care, and education.
He has served for the Pensacola Chamber

865
01:20:53,143 --> 01:20:57,503
of Commerce, Sacred Heart Hospital System,
the Universal West Florida Foundation,

866
01:20:58,123 --> 01:21:01,903
Pensacola Junior College Foundation, the
Catholic Foundation of Northwest Florida,

867
01:21:02,143 --> 01:21:06,013
and many, many more. Whereas Mr.
Nookerson's service to the community and successful

868
01:21:06,013 --> 01:21:10,353
career has earned him several recognitions
and awards, including Sacred Heart

869
01:21:10,353 --> 01:21:14,653
Hospital Visionary Recognition, Silver
Beaver and Golden Eagle Boy Scout,

870
01:21:15,513 --> 01:21:20,653
Pace Community Leader of the Year in
1983, Pace Beard of Pensacola in 2015,

871
01:21:21,213 --> 01:21:25,013
United Way Distinguished Community
Service Award, West Florida Outstanding

872
01:21:25,013 --> 01:21:29,133
Philanthropist Recognition, Escamity
County Banker of the Year, and many,

873
01:21:29,133 --> 01:21:32,773
many, many more. Now therefore be it
proclaimed that the Board of County

874
01:21:32,773 --> 01:21:37,693
Commissioners of Scamity County hereby
recognize the remarkable professional and

875
01:21:37,693 --> 01:21:42,633
philanthropic achievements of Mr. Eric
Day -Nukerson and acknowledges his great

876
01:21:42,633 --> 01:21:46,553
contributions to the overall betterment
of our local community and surrounding

877
01:21:46,553 --> 01:21:50,293
communities. Board of County Commissioners
Ashley Hovlager, Chair Steven Stroberg,

878
01:21:50,353 --> 01:21:54,293
Vice Chair Mike Cola, District 2,
Looman May, District 3, Steven Perry,

879
01:21:54,453 --> 01:21:56,853
District 5. Thank you, a job well done.

880
01:22:02,623 --> 01:22:08,303
Thank all y 'all that he's he's talking way
too much You guys are doing lots of lots

881
01:22:08,303 --> 01:22:12,303
of lots of stuff and so proud of all of
you But thank you for even thinking of me.

882
01:22:12,303 --> 01:22:13,723
Thank you very much We

883
01:22:17,403 --> 01:22:21,843
are humbled and grateful that you would
recognize his servant leadership as you know

884
01:22:21,843 --> 01:22:27,523
He survives more than 60 years of storms
and hurricanes. So to transition to this He

885
01:22:27,523 --> 01:22:34,163
was a servant leader that helped the
people of the community He led With both a

886
01:22:34,163 --> 01:22:40,583
gentle and a lion's heart to help
make this community strong and serve everyone and

887
01:22:40,583 --> 01:22:47,563
that is Thank you our family is

888
01:22:47,563 --> 01:22:51,683
thrilled to be here So much Don't

889
01:22:56,733 --> 01:23:03,163
get it Have any Commission would like to
join in the picture, please join if you'd

890
01:23:03,163 --> 01:23:05,103
like it. I know Commissioner
Berry's very close to the family

891
01:23:14,263 --> 01:23:14,623
Thank

892
01:23:25,733 --> 01:23:27,333
you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

893
01:23:42,073 --> 01:23:42,393
Eric,

894
01:23:54,433 --> 01:23:55,473
you have our next proclamation.

895
01:24:10,613 --> 01:24:14,413
Well, Dave couldn't get out of here without
one more storm. So to be honest with

896
01:24:14,413 --> 01:24:18,093
you, I thought he'd just get out in the
Gulf and just float away when he left us.

897
01:24:18,253 --> 01:24:21,893
But here he is getting his proclamation.
So Dave, appreciate you and all your

898
01:24:21,893 --> 01:24:26,903
service. Dave Greenwood is dedicated nearly
four decades of protecting lives and

899
01:24:26,903 --> 01:24:30,563
safety of those who enjoy Pensacola Beach
in Santa Rosa Island beginning his career

900
01:24:30,563 --> 01:24:36,743
in surf surf life guarding in 1987 that's
a long time to a long time buddy joined

901
01:24:36,743 --> 01:24:40,783
the Pensacola Beach lifeguard team in 1992
and ultimately retiring as water safety

902
01:24:40,783 --> 01:24:46,303
chief for Iskandia County Mr. Greenwood
was promoted to head lifeguard in 1993 and

903
01:24:46,303 --> 01:24:51,003
water safety supervisor in 1996 providing
leadership during a period of tremendous

904
01:24:51,003 --> 01:24:55,283
growth in Pitskola Beach lifeguard
program and helping guide the team from

905
01:24:55,283 --> 01:24:59,503
approximately 12 lifeguards to more than
70 serving under Scambi County's direction

906
01:24:59,503 --> 01:25:03,373
of the day. Mr. Greenwood played
an instrumental role strengthening the training and

907
01:25:03,373 --> 01:25:07,253
professional development of Pensacola Beach
lifeguards beginning with pre -service

908
01:25:07,253 --> 01:25:12,493
training program in 2002 and helping
to achieve United States Life Saving

909
01:25:12,493 --> 01:25:16,543
Association agency
accreditation in 2003. Mr.

910
01:25:16,943 --> 01:25:20,403
Greenwood initiated the Pensacola Beach
lifeguard program in 2003, creating

911
01:25:20,403 --> 01:25:24,293
opportunities for young people to learn
valuable water safety skills introducing

912
01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:28,393
future generations responsible lifeguards
with the program ultimately producing

913
01:25:28,393 --> 01:25:32,613
numerous principal Cola Beach lifeguards
and I think some of these guys are our

914
01:25:32,613 --> 01:25:36,953
junior lifeguards. Come
on now I thought you are.

915
01:25:37,453 --> 01:25:40,593
I know we have a lot of our seasonal
lifeguards come back that were junior

916
01:25:40,593 --> 01:25:45,353
lifeguards. Dave does a good
job promoting that. In 2015, Mr.

917
01:25:45,633 --> 01:25:48,593
Greenwood played a key role in
facilitating the transition of Pensacola Beach

918
01:25:48,593 --> 01:25:52,253
lifeguard services from the Santa Rosa
Island Authority to Escambia County,

919
01:25:52,573 --> 01:25:56,313
helping ensure continuity of water safety
services upon which residents and visitors

920
01:25:56,313 --> 01:26:01,293
depend on. In October 2015, he was
appointed Chief of Water Safety, a position he

921
01:26:01,293 --> 01:26:05,013
has held with distinction ever
since. As Chief of Water Safety, Mr.

922
01:26:05,213 --> 01:26:08,413
Greenwood has led water safety operations
for Pensacola Beach, Blooms, or Air Show

923
01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:13,213
since 2015, coordinating with numerous
public safety agencies to ensure unified

924
01:26:13,213 --> 01:26:16,753
operation and the safety of residents,
visitors, spectators, and emergency

925
01:26:16,753 --> 01:26:20,793
personnel. Throughout his career, Mr.
Greenwood has trained, mentored numerous

926
01:26:20,793 --> 01:26:25,673
lifeguards emphasizing preparation, professionalism,
water safety, and service while

927
01:26:25,673 --> 01:26:29,333
helping develop the next generation of
individuals entrusted with protecting the

928
01:26:29,333 --> 01:26:32,953
public along with the center of Zylin.
His commitment to training, prevention,

929
01:26:32,973 --> 01:26:37,033
and preparedness has helped protect
countless residents and visitors and continually

930
01:26:37,033 --> 01:26:41,823
improve water safety for the community.
After nearly four decades of dedicated

931
01:26:41,823 --> 01:26:45,323
service to the public safety of the safety
of public Pensacola Beach in the center

932
01:26:45,323 --> 01:26:48,723
of the island, Dave Greenwood leaves behind
a lasting legacy through the people he

933
01:26:48,723 --> 01:26:54,163
trained, the programs he established, the
life course he mentioned, mentored and the

934
01:26:54,163 --> 01:26:58,773
safer community he helped build. Sorry. Now
for there be it proclaimed the Board of

935
01:26:58,773 --> 01:27:01,733
County Commissioners of Escambia County,
Florida on behalf of citizens and fellow

936
01:27:01,733 --> 01:27:05,953
employees commands and congratulates Dave
Greenwood chief of water safety on his

937
01:27:05,953 --> 01:27:09,993
retirement recognizes his distinguished career
as a dedicated public service Ashley

938
01:27:09,993 --> 01:27:14,593
Hoffberger chair Steven Stroberger vice
chair Mike Kohler district to lemon made

939
01:27:14,593 --> 01:27:17,153
district 3 Steven Barry
district 5 congratulations Dave

940
01:27:21,943 --> 01:27:26,383
Well, I just like to say thank you this
is a bittersweet moment because I can say

941
01:27:26,383 --> 01:27:32,843
truly that step forward fellas That
I am happy to work among the few

942
01:27:32,843 --> 01:27:37,523
the happy few a band of brothers and
sisters as lifeguards on Pensacola Beach.

943
01:27:37,763 --> 01:27:39,083
Thank you

944
01:27:53,103 --> 01:27:56,983
Congratulations,

945
01:28:11,753 --> 01:28:16,523
and thank you so much for keeping our
beaches safe Do the clerk's office receive the

946
01:28:16,523 --> 01:28:20,303
proofs of publication for the public hearings
on the agenda and the board's regular

947
01:28:20,303 --> 01:28:24,483
weekly meeting schedule? Madam chair the
clerk's office has received all proofs.

948
01:28:24,483 --> 01:28:29,683
Thank you Do I have a motion that
the do we have a second all in favor?

949
01:28:30,263 --> 01:28:35,283
Five -oh, thank you public hearings. We
do not have any speakers for our public

950
01:28:35,283 --> 01:28:40,523
hearing 902 public hearing for
consideration of adopting an ordinance Okay,

951
01:28:42,583 --> 01:28:48,113
all in favor. Okay, five -oh, thank
you For the Madam Clerk the clerk and

952
01:28:48,113 --> 01:28:53,013
comptroller's report we have speakers
on a speaker on item number one and two

953
01:28:53,013 --> 01:28:58,173
speakers on item number three Speaker
on item number one is Stan McDaniel's

954
01:29:03,073 --> 01:29:07,313
Stan McDaniel's with master Butler comm I
just want to let you know I will be tying

955
01:29:07,313 --> 01:29:13,373
this back into the TDT You know in
the end here, so just bear with me

956
01:29:13,373 --> 01:29:17,593
Madam Clerk, I just want to thank you for
what you've been doing to stand up for our

957
01:29:17,593 --> 01:29:23,403
community here But as a constitutional
officer, I came here today to bring you a

958
01:29:23,403 --> 01:29:28,283
warning. You know, I got a little red
card in the mail that says your office is

959
01:29:28,283 --> 01:29:32,583
going to recommend the suspension of
my license or ensure that my license is

960
01:29:32,583 --> 01:29:37,943
suspended for failure to pay court costs.
And I just want to warn you because

961
01:29:37,943 --> 01:29:43,843
Justice Gorsuch of the Supreme Court of the
United States has said that nine out of

962
01:29:43,843 --> 01:29:50,133
ten courts in America aren't
real courts, are not real courts.

963
01:29:50,873 --> 01:29:56,853
And the jurisdictional matter of the courts
that I've had to endure here in Escambia

964
01:29:56,853 --> 01:29:59,973
County is one of a great...

965
01:30:01,307 --> 01:30:06,147
Importance for the our constitutional rights here
in Escambia County and so I'm just

966
01:30:06,147 --> 01:30:11,487
warning you that you could be
releasing your immunity by violating my constitutional

967
01:30:11,487 --> 01:30:15,027
rights and Suspending my driver's license.

968
01:30:15,487 --> 01:30:22,027
I also want to bring to your attention the
failure of your clerk or the the error of

969
01:30:22,027 --> 01:30:28,367
your clerk to check a box on a piece
of paper before giving it to the judge to sign.

970
01:30:28,927 --> 01:30:35,287
And that error cost me 999
days without seeing my sons.

971
01:30:35,647 --> 01:30:41,147
And that has been a great loss,
not just to me, but to my sons.

972
01:30:41,947 --> 01:30:48,537
And we have this report, this a grand jury
report of DCF in Florida and we know our

973
01:30:48,537 --> 01:30:54,597
family courts are completely busted and
so I just ask that you look into that and

974
01:30:54,597 --> 01:30:59,337
see where you can stand up as
a constitutional officer and quite possibly stop

975
01:30:59,337 --> 01:31:03,437
supporting the trafficking of
children through the family courts.

976
01:31:04,227 --> 01:31:10,347
And so how I'm going to tie this back
to the TDT is that I have a brand called

977
01:31:10,347 --> 01:31:15,627
Master Butler and I do intend to grow
that brand into a statewide and then

978
01:31:15,627 --> 01:31:21,027
regionally and eventually nationally. And
so that's going to end up bringing lots of

979
01:31:21,027 --> 01:31:27,647
people to Pensacola to support
my brand and offices and whatnot.

980
01:31:27,847 --> 01:31:34,497
And I'd like to have my, I'm offering
you a settlement. $1.2 million through

981
01:31:34,497 --> 01:31:40,507
economic development to help me with my
business and a reinstatement to the CoLab

982
01:31:40,507 --> 01:31:44,747
offices until any facilities are
built. My name is Stan McDaniels.

983
01:31:44,867 --> 01:31:49,187
I'm here to stand up for all of Escambia
County's children here that are being

984
01:31:49,187 --> 01:31:54,887
trafficked through the family courts, whether
that's through DCF or just the family

985
01:31:54,887 --> 01:32:00,567
courts. The lawyers are in on it and, you
know, we now have the opportunity to have

986
01:32:00,567 --> 01:32:04,347
competition with the Bar Association,
so I believe that's going to be a multi

987
01:32:04,347 --> 01:32:06,627
-generational solution to that problem.
Thank you, Stan. We appreciate your

988
01:32:06,627 --> 01:32:07,167
comments. Thank you very much.

989
01:32:08,467 --> 01:32:11,827
and after Larry Downs
will be Jonathan green And

990
01:32:13,207 --> 01:32:19,947
this is for item number three on the
clerk's report Larry Downs jr Plumbing LLC

991
01:32:19,947 --> 01:32:25,817
because fecal miters This
was on the sandy sensing

992
01:32:25,817 --> 01:32:30,737
You know public forum
minutes from the last minute

993
01:32:30,737 --> 01:32:37,487
I'm really just just
really disturbed with how

994
01:32:37,677 --> 01:32:39,737
a commissioner can

995
01:32:41,227 --> 01:32:46,847
Make outright lies about about a particular
citizen or any citizen for that matter

996
01:32:46,847 --> 01:32:52,327
and the rest of you commissioners
Say nothing now, this is a provable.

997
01:32:52,327 --> 01:32:58,947
This is provable lies You can go
through staff You can check with Tim

998
01:32:58,947 --> 01:33:05,777
day Never in my life have I pumped
sewage water into the drinking

999
01:33:05,777 --> 01:33:12,557
water or into a waterline never
This is this is outright lie

1000
01:33:12,557 --> 01:33:18,437
the others are lies, too So I would
expect better of the rest of you County

1001
01:33:18,437 --> 01:33:25,227
commissioners to not allow this You know
this happened at our last meeting and even

1002
01:33:25,227 --> 01:33:32,207
today this commissioner has doubled
down doubled down I mean, I don't know

1003
01:33:32,207 --> 01:33:35,947
if this is you know, if y 'all
have immunity to to do this.

1004
01:33:35,947 --> 01:33:42,567
I have no clue But it's not
right You know, I've never

1005
01:33:42,567 --> 01:33:47,367
wished harm on any commissioner up there.
That's not the item that is addressed in

1006
01:33:47,367 --> 01:33:51,947
major chair This is the side of order.
Let's let let's pause the time Please let

1007
01:33:51,947 --> 01:33:55,627
please let Larry speak and then we can address
it Let Larry get his time in and then

1008
01:33:55,627 --> 01:33:59,207
we can address it. So take notes
and then we can address This

1009
01:34:00,707 --> 01:34:05,707
it's regarding it's regarding the minutes.
It's regarding the minutes being up from

1010
01:34:05,707 --> 01:34:12,547
the record the record And I want to make
sure the record is clear because I did not

1011
01:34:12,547 --> 01:34:16,427
hear these lies because it's harder to
hear from down here mumbling up there.

1012
01:34:16,727 --> 01:34:20,807
I don't know if y 'all knew it. I
got construction ears too. It's hard to make out

1013
01:34:20,807 --> 01:34:25,227
everything. And I kind of block y 'all out
because I don't like to get interrupted.

1014
01:34:26,107 --> 01:34:32,327
And it happens all the time. It's
become, you know, it's very disruptive.

1015
01:34:33,467 --> 01:34:39,997
But anyways, I would hope that y 'all as
a board, the board of county commissioners

1016
01:34:39,997 --> 01:34:46,157
would not allow this sort of thing to happen.
And if it does happen that y 'all nip

1017
01:34:46,157 --> 01:34:52,767
it in the bud quickly, get to the bottom
of it. There's a public email record

1018
01:34:52,767 --> 01:34:55,497
of the truth.

1019
01:34:57,127 --> 01:35:04,107
And we've got to do something about
this. I mean, this encourages people from

1020
01:35:04,107 --> 01:35:09,977
coming up here and speaking, redressing
their government for fear of of retaliation,

1021
01:35:10,357 --> 01:35:11,237
retribution, whatever.

1022
01:35:13,307 --> 01:35:18,007
Maybe that's the wrong word,
but it's just, it's not right.

1023
01:35:18,567 --> 01:35:25,207
It's not right. I mean, I'm just
one citizen. I have 26, 26 family

1024
01:35:25,207 --> 01:35:30,907
members depending upon this small business. You
know, many other people that I do

1025
01:35:30,907 --> 01:35:35,347
business with, I spend lots of money with
them. And we should not be trying to hurt

1026
01:35:35,347 --> 01:35:39,427
our local businesses. Thank you.
Thank you, Larry. Madam chair.

1027
01:35:39,467 --> 01:35:44,347
Yes, sir. So Larry you and I talked for
roughly 25 minutes on the phone about this

1028
01:35:44,347 --> 01:35:49,607
Because this went over my head during the
whole when it was going on was at the last

1029
01:35:49,607 --> 01:35:53,847
meeting It's the last meeting it was going
on and I I thought we were talking about

1030
01:35:53,847 --> 01:35:59,367
something separate than Lisa's property
that issue But we talked for a while.

1031
01:35:59,367 --> 01:36:04,737
I talked with Lisa. I also believe that
you did not do anything wrong I want to

1032
01:36:04,737 --> 01:36:09,297
believe that it was a it was a
misunderstanding and and maybe mr.

1033
01:36:09,457 --> 01:36:13,637
May was not Commissioner May was what
didn't have all the right information about

1034
01:36:13,637 --> 01:36:18,037
that I don't believe you did anything
wrong and I want to I want to believe that

1035
01:36:18,037 --> 01:36:23,737
that Commissioner May Just made a mistake
about saying that was sewage water pumped

1036
01:36:23,737 --> 01:36:27,937
into that hole That's that's what I was
hoping for and I was actually hoping for an

1037
01:36:27,937 --> 01:36:32,577
apology because I know there was not but
I got a double down I Will stand by you.

1038
01:36:32,717 --> 01:36:37,767
I know it was not sewage water and I
know you had permission to To do it.

1039
01:36:37,767 --> 01:36:42,627
I got it in text message. I mean, I mean
I cover When you're doing this kind of

1040
01:36:42,627 --> 01:36:47,227
stuff, you have to cover your butt, especially
when you talk like I do You know you

1041
01:36:47,227 --> 01:36:52,447
really got to because there's always oh and
if y 'all go to Larry Downs jr Facebook

1042
01:36:52,447 --> 01:36:57,427
I know just just just a second if you go
to my Facebook You'll see a confrontation

1043
01:36:57,427 --> 01:37:03,447
at the Sorrento Road and Bauer Road Tom
Thumb this morning where we have people

1044
01:37:03,447 --> 01:37:07,107
working here in town who should
not be around our people.

1045
01:37:08,107 --> 01:37:12,587
And if they will talk to me that way, I
mean, these people are working in people's

1046
01:37:12,587 --> 01:37:16,687
houses and homes. I don't agree with this
type of stuff. And I confronted them.

1047
01:37:16,967 --> 01:37:20,127
So y 'all take a look and see if y 'all
can keep them from working here in our

1048
01:37:20,127 --> 01:37:24,627
county. Larry, I just asked the attorney
about the amendment of the minutes.

1049
01:37:24,807 --> 01:37:29,837
I don't know. I think the same thing but
just what you said today will be in the

1050
01:37:29,837 --> 01:37:34,677
next minute says your protest so that is
kind of where you get your point out of

1051
01:37:34,677 --> 01:37:38,177
what your concern is. So I just
asked the attorney about that.

1052
01:37:38,317 --> 01:37:42,257
I just want you to know that as far
as Commissioner May, I don't know where he got

1053
01:37:42,257 --> 01:37:47,257
that information and so I'll let him
justify that. Well and there's no way to

1054
01:37:47,257 --> 01:37:52,637
justify it but I'm just saying I'm leaving
because I just can't deal with this.

1055
01:37:52,957 --> 01:37:56,757
I'll see y 'all later. Thank you Larry.
Commissioner May? Thank you and Larry I love

1056
01:37:56,757 --> 01:38:00,317
it you come down here every Thursday and
make accusations that are untrue anything

1057
01:38:00,317 --> 01:38:04,337
that's unfounded prove that it's unfounded
and know you know what stop making your

1058
01:38:04,337 --> 01:38:08,237
racial slurs and expect somebody to apologize
you're not a bully and you're not

1059
01:38:08,237 --> 01:38:11,717
gonna bully me that's not how I'm gonna
operate so you know I appreciate what you're

1060
01:38:11,717 --> 01:38:15,897
saying Commissioner Stover we stand on what we
said we stand on it it's ridding if

1061
01:38:15,897 --> 01:38:18,897
anybody wants to find the reports they
should go find the reports and acknowledge it

1062
01:38:18,897 --> 01:38:23,497
Larry knows exactly where I am where I
live and he just wants TV time and I'm not

1063
01:38:23,497 --> 01:38:29,087
gonna entertain it Our next speaker is
Jonathan green Jonathan if you'll come on up

1064
01:38:29,087 --> 01:38:32,647
and then Jonathan will be our last speaker
for the clerk and Comptroller's report

1065
01:38:32,647 --> 01:38:33,727
Good

1066
01:38:47,107 --> 01:38:50,027
morning, everyone Reverend.
Dr. Jonathan Garrett green.

1067
01:38:52,227 --> 01:38:58,867
Um Want to discuss the two million dollar
haircut Kind of addressed in the last

1068
01:38:58,867 --> 01:39:01,107
minutes I

1069
01:39:02,897 --> 01:39:09,257
understand the propaganda that could be
portrayed in media of the term was already

1070
01:39:09,257 --> 01:39:12,197
put out there defunding
police. It's not a defund.

1071
01:39:13,667 --> 01:39:18,047
We must be clear and transparent
with the words reflected in records.

1072
01:39:18,987 --> 01:39:25,227
I appreciate that if right now, Xcanvia
County Sheriff's Office has 10 vacancies.

1073
01:39:26,797 --> 01:39:33,327
And if you allocate, I'm all for, if
you have a problem, bring a solution.

1074
01:39:34,207 --> 01:39:40,507
So if you have, Five vacancies of those
that once those are filled Reallocate the

1075
01:39:40,507 --> 01:39:44,447
other five positions but until then the
back five that aren't being filled and

1076
01:39:44,447 --> 01:39:49,827
haven't been for years because law
enforcement is difficult to find hiring and

1077
01:39:49,827 --> 01:39:56,667
retention if You reallocate the funds
to public programs To help thwart the

1078
01:39:56,667 --> 01:40:02,627
violence that we're trying to stop such
as July 4th shooting It will enhance the

1079
01:40:02,627 --> 01:40:06,717
ability for police to not have to the
state of New Jersey. Do criminal law

1080
01:40:06,717 --> 01:40:11,477
enforcement as much. And having
the resources to be able to.

1081
01:40:12,597 --> 01:40:18,377
Have additional programs that focus on
community engagement while law enforcement

1082
01:40:18,377 --> 01:40:24,637
officers focus on enforcing the law. Now
I say this as the former - lead community

1083
01:40:24,637 --> 01:40:28,157
mediator of the New Jersey
office of the attorney general's.

1084
01:40:28,617 --> 01:40:32,857
Department of law and public safety
division on civil rights community relations

1085
01:40:32,857 --> 01:40:38,087
unit - we turned our partnership
engagement across the state from over seventeen

1086
01:40:38,087 --> 01:40:42,997
hundred the first year I was there it's
over seventy five hundred and being able to

1087
01:40:42,997 --> 01:40:48,217
relate to the community is the exact
thing that in past minutes the ex -gambia

1088
01:40:48,217 --> 01:40:53,157
Pensacola human relations commission had
it not been dissolved can help with a lot

1089
01:40:53,157 --> 01:40:59,807
of the issues we're having here so let's
think about the solutions thank you thank

1090
01:40:59,807 --> 01:41:05,817
you sir madam clerk the clerk and
comptroller's report please Sure, we have three

1091
01:41:05,817 --> 01:41:11,217
items on the consent agenda. The first
one is the TDT collection data This will

1092
01:41:11,217 --> 01:41:17,897
conclude our fiscal year end. So the
number that you see 23 million will be our

1093
01:41:17,897 --> 01:41:23,997
collections roundabout with some accruals
for the year That's about a 7% increase

1094
01:41:23,997 --> 01:41:27,497
The second is documents for
filing with the board's minutes.

1095
01:41:27,497 --> 01:41:31,617
The thirds are the minutes and
reports that have been prepared.

1096
01:41:31,777 --> 01:41:38,267
Thank you Do we have a motion to move the
report do we have a second all in favor?

1097
01:41:38,877 --> 01:41:44,677
I vote. Thank you Next is growth
management report Horace and we do have several

1098
01:41:44,677 --> 01:41:50,257
speakers for GMR 1 -1 Good morning. Good
job person commissioners and board members

1099
01:41:50,257 --> 01:41:56,797
for tonight 15 We have the first of two
public hearings to adopt the outline field

1100
01:41:56,797 --> 01:42:02,797
master plan The outline fields design
code the regulating plan and the role

1101
01:42:02,797 --> 01:42:06,957
classification plan and established development
within the scamming County fields

1102
01:42:06,957 --> 01:42:13,417
Mustafa area as modified by the
errata sheet dated October 15th 2026

1103
01:42:13,417 --> 01:42:19,747
again, this is the first of two
public hearings Thank you horse.

1104
01:42:19,807 --> 01:42:23,827
Our first speaker is John Moore and
after John Moore is Brandy Johnson.

1105
01:42:38,477 --> 01:42:44,047
Good morning, madam chair board In June of
2025 at Commissioner Stroberger's motion

1106
01:42:44,047 --> 01:42:49,447
and thank you Commissioner at that time
this board voted 5 -0 to record the DPZ

1107
01:42:49,447 --> 01:42:53,887
master plan and design code as it might be
amended as a restrictive covenant before

1108
01:42:53,887 --> 01:42:58,227
closing. The covenant said its purpose
was to preserve the effect of the master

1109
01:42:58,227 --> 01:43:02,447
plan. This was a concession to be a little
regarding our opposition to distribution

1110
01:43:02,447 --> 01:43:06,327
warehouses among many other threats to
the existing master plan and design code.

1111
01:43:06,797 --> 01:43:10,717
The proposed comprehensive plan language
now expressly includes warehouse and

1112
01:43:10,717 --> 01:43:15,377
associated distribution. The proposed design
code's own definition says a wholesale

1113
01:43:15,377 --> 01:43:20,757
warehouse is a warehouse or distribution
facility. The community trusted you then,

1114
01:43:20,977 --> 01:43:25,547
I did not. I called out the contradiction
then and numerous times since.

1115
01:43:25,847 --> 01:43:30,107
Today's meeting confirms my prior comments
and objections. You are being asked to

1116
01:43:30,107 --> 01:43:34,987
advance a document that says this design
code section shall replace all prior

1117
01:43:34,987 --> 01:43:39,507
regulatory documents for the Outline Fields
Master Plan. Your own agenda has called

1118
01:43:39,507 --> 01:43:44,547
this a new master plan. If the board does
not resolve this disparity before voting

1119
01:43:44,547 --> 01:43:49,757
on this item, you have lied to Bula
and the county. Please tell me which section of

1120
01:43:49,757 --> 01:43:54,077
the new contract authorizes wholesale replacement
of the existing master plan and

1121
01:43:54,077 --> 01:43:58,897
design code. But before you respond, I'll
say that section five is not the correct

1122
01:43:58,897 --> 01:44:03,417
answer. It says updated zoning and master
plan and section 10 is not the correct

1123
01:44:03,417 --> 01:44:08,317
answer. It says the original agreement,
which was your first contract with Tri -W,

1124
01:44:08,677 --> 01:44:12,297
remains in full force except for
expressly modified or conflicting.

1125
01:44:13,117 --> 01:44:19,017
updated, modified, and generally consistent
does not equal replace all prior

1126
01:44:19,017 --> 01:44:20,257
regulatory documents.

1127
01:44:24,187 --> 01:44:28,607
What master plan is actually going to
run with this land if you record it?

1128
01:44:29,547 --> 01:44:33,407
On another note, I would like to know why
the board is even considering locking the

1129
01:44:33,407 --> 01:44:38,167
county owned ETI track into this replacement
master plan and design code before the

1130
01:44:38,167 --> 01:44:41,767
master development agreement defining the
purchaser's involvement in that property

1131
01:44:41,767 --> 01:44:43,527
has been deliberated or finalized.

1132
01:44:45,397 --> 01:44:49,537
I think the public deserves to know what
our liabilities are going to be in advance

1133
01:44:49,537 --> 01:44:54,247
There are a lot of questions the community
has surrounding this process and you guys

1134
01:44:54,247 --> 01:44:58,167
like the afterburners to get it across
the finish line Where are the protections

1135
01:44:58,167 --> 01:45:02,327
that the community was promised you're
replacing the master plan you're replacing

1136
01:45:02,327 --> 01:45:06,587
the design code There isn't one shred of
evidence that they don't work other than

1137
01:45:06,587 --> 01:45:12,097
the regulating plan. Thank you the people
are watching Thank You John Brandy Johnson

1138
01:45:12,097 --> 01:45:14,577
and after Brandy Johnson
is Margaret Hostetter

1139
01:45:21,007 --> 01:45:22,967
Hello, my name is Brandy Johnson.

1140
01:45:24,267 --> 01:45:29,087
So one of the main things that sticks
out to me is that community advocates

1141
01:45:29,087 --> 01:45:33,327
advocated with the developers
for quite some time.

1142
01:45:34,187 --> 01:45:38,767
And it's unfortunate that there was a
little blurb in all the contracts that there

1143
01:45:38,767 --> 01:45:44,887
might be minor changes. However, some of
these changes being requested are major,

1144
01:45:45,887 --> 01:45:50,277
taking a building to 8 stories or 6
stories or whatever it is, is extreme.

1145
01:45:50,997 --> 01:45:54,637
Having to change the land development code
is extreme. So I would like to point out

1146
01:45:54,637 --> 01:46:00,077
that that is a breach of contract and it's
a disservice to the people of Beulah and

1147
01:46:00,077 --> 01:46:04,877
Escambia County that there's been no up
-to -date land appraisal on the property.

1148
01:46:06,177 --> 01:46:12,497
As many of our property taxes have went
up over this period of time, I'm sure the

1149
01:46:12,497 --> 01:46:19,087
value of that property has as well. And
so as a Scambia County residents we do

1150
01:46:19,087 --> 01:46:24,827
deserve an up -to -date appraisal. I would
also like to point out that I've heard no

1151
01:46:24,827 --> 01:46:30,827
studies done by the county only by
the developer and considering that

1152
01:46:30,827 --> 01:46:37,267
when they created a contract with the community
they put the blurb in there and they

1153
01:46:37,267 --> 01:46:40,587
weren't honest about
what their desires were.

1154
01:46:42,377 --> 01:46:46,717
We haven't done any study so to take them
on their word about how the community is

1155
01:46:46,717 --> 01:46:50,677
going to be impacted doesn't make good
sense because they didn't honor their

1156
01:46:50,677 --> 01:46:54,357
original words. So why would we just
assume they're telling us the truth now?

1157
01:46:55,957 --> 01:47:01,277
And also you all have the authority to
ask them directly as I did at the planning

1158
01:47:01,277 --> 01:47:06,337
board on three separate occasions. Data
center language was in the paperwork.

1159
01:47:06,457 --> 01:47:12,497
It had been removed after we complained.
And my question is that remaining warehouse

1160
01:47:12,497 --> 01:47:17,277
in that paperwork, is it an accessory
data center? We have a right to know.

1161
01:47:17,457 --> 01:47:22,597
We have a right to hear the answer to that
question specifically. Is it an accessory

1162
01:47:22,597 --> 01:47:27,677
data center? Because we've been advocating
long and hard here about the data centers

1163
01:47:27,677 --> 01:47:33,777
as well. And so I think the public as a
whole deserves at least at the minimum an

1164
01:47:33,777 --> 01:47:37,697
answer to that question.
But I hate it for...

1165
01:47:37,537 --> 01:47:42,217
you know, the advocates that have advocated
for our community for so long that

1166
01:47:42,217 --> 01:47:46,957
everything now with the paperwork and
the plan has just flipped on its head.

1167
01:47:47,497 --> 01:47:52,157
And I think that the residents want
to feel backed up and advocated for.

1168
01:47:52,637 --> 01:47:53,197
Thank you.

1169
01:47:55,077 --> 01:47:59,177
Thank you, Brandi. Margaret Hostutter
and after Margaret is Francesca.

1170
01:48:06,577 --> 01:48:12,987
I've been to the planning zone meetings
on this matter a few times and I want to

1171
01:48:12,987 --> 01:48:19,667
report the planning board this past
time made no comment before they

1172
01:48:19,667 --> 01:48:25,477
voted and they voted for
the changes without comment.

1173
01:48:26,197 --> 01:48:32,837
So please remember what I said earlier.
We expect and need individual comments

1174
01:48:32,837 --> 01:48:37,117
about how you vote on
this matter in detail.

1175
01:48:39,627 --> 01:48:45,007
This plan is a total departure
from the approved master plan.

1176
01:48:45,327 --> 01:48:51,667
It is bait and switch. And that was a 10
-year community -involved process that

1177
01:48:51,667 --> 01:48:58,167
went, that if you pass this, has
been replaced for the developer

1178
01:48:58,167 --> 01:49:03,727
-run and demanded and planned new program.

1179
01:49:05,007 --> 01:49:08,947
They've replaced the DPZ
standards and all of that.

1180
01:49:09,227 --> 01:49:15,297
This is a massive up -zoning. higher
density, lack of traffic controls.

1181
01:49:15,677 --> 01:49:21,697
We don't have concurrency in this county,
so the things that will be built and are

1182
01:49:21,697 --> 01:49:28,617
allowed to be built have no requirement
for concurrent infrastructure

1183
01:49:28,617 --> 01:49:33,637
to be there. That's huge.

1184
01:49:35,987 --> 01:49:41,127
This is the introduction of incompatible
commercial uses, the distribution

1185
01:49:41,127 --> 01:49:47,087
warehouses, the obvious
attempt to place heavy -duty

1186
01:49:47,087 --> 01:49:54,007
commercial use, especially in that
zone, 171 acres, that technically

1187
01:49:54,007 --> 01:49:59,907
we still own, and yet you have
abandoned your responsibility for

1188
01:49:59,907 --> 01:50:06,557
regarding the application for Triumph,

1189
01:50:07,397 --> 01:50:14,277
for any funds for those infrastructures,
to the developer who is filling out and

1190
01:50:14,277 --> 01:50:21,097
handling all of that process.
This is unsavory at best.

1191
01:50:23,557 --> 01:50:27,577
This is a flawed developer
-drafted approval process.

1192
01:50:28,057 --> 01:50:34,607
It doesn't matter if he's local and he's
a good old boy and everybody likes He and

1193
01:50:34,607 --> 01:50:40,757
his partners we have had bait and
switch the the community has been

1194
01:50:40,757 --> 01:50:47,317
Fooled and we are relying on your judgment

1195
01:50:47,317 --> 01:50:54,097
to stop this and to send it back to
the drafting board because you have not

1196
01:50:54,097 --> 01:51:00,637
They have not honored their
contract of sale Thank You Margaret

1197
01:51:00,637 --> 01:51:04,017
Francesca, you're next and
after Francesca is Kristi Rosen

1198
01:51:13,087 --> 01:51:15,987
I'm Francesca. Good morning.

1199
01:51:17,467 --> 01:51:24,087
I stand here this morning. What
thousand Piola residents are saying

1200
01:51:24,087 --> 01:51:31,077
about the rejection of these developers
and sweeping modifications of

1201
01:51:31,077 --> 01:51:36,697
the integration of OFA. For nearly 10
years, the community has played by the rules

1202
01:51:36,697 --> 01:51:41,877
with packed town halls, collaborated with
urban planners to build the master plan.

1203
01:51:42,567 --> 01:51:47,487
where highway jobs came first,
the housing remains secondary.

1204
01:51:49,007 --> 01:51:53,167
But what we're witnessing right
now is a textbook bait and switch.

1205
01:51:53,867 --> 01:51:59,047
The private developer's purchase price
was slashed by nearly $14 million,

1206
01:51:59,867 --> 01:52:06,547
dropping it to roughly $28.4 million
in exchange to getting their cherry

1207
01:52:06,547 --> 01:52:12,267
prick to prime 9 Mile Road. frontage while
dumping the infrastructure burden back

1208
01:52:12,267 --> 01:52:17,547
onto the taxpayers. Worse yet, the
developers is hiding behind the buzzword,

1209
01:52:17,647 --> 01:52:24,607
technology, invovations justifying
the massive push for mixed -use urban

1210
01:52:24,607 --> 01:52:30,717
designation. They have quietly
stuffed a commercial protection while

1211
01:52:30,717 --> 01:52:37,517
smuggling in the code five
megawatts The data center right next

1212
01:52:37,517 --> 01:52:41,197
to our residential neighborhood. I live
right next to Nine Mile Road. I live on

1213
01:52:41,197 --> 01:52:41,737
Davis Highway.

1214
01:52:43,017 --> 01:52:47,057
Look how, look at the technology hubs.

1215
01:52:47,617 --> 01:52:53,117
If you look at Taiwan, the undisputed
capital advancement technologies set in an

1216
01:52:53,117 --> 01:52:59,417
infrastructure. They don't dump new raw
data centers in their suburbs backyard as

1217
01:52:59,417 --> 01:53:05,397
the global techs of Taiwan infrastructure
end to end focuses on factories.

1218
01:53:06,027 --> 01:53:13,007
When they build AI data centers in a green
infrastructure, they do smart pavilons to

1219
01:53:13,007 --> 01:53:17,107
power grids, which their new
technology is five megawatts.

1220
01:53:18,147 --> 01:53:24,107
Yet, Escambia County is asking us to
approve developers draft codes for five

1221
01:53:24,107 --> 01:53:29,367
megawatts centers without comprehensive
traffic, without utility grids,

1222
01:53:29,567 --> 01:53:33,567
evaluations, without
independence. We are in high...

1223
01:53:33,267 --> 01:53:39,907
densities with zero accountability. Every
planning board member who initially voted

1224
01:53:39,907 --> 01:53:44,087
had publicly accepted
regret, admitted they rushed.

1225
01:53:44,787 --> 01:53:49,827
Commissioners, do you represent private
interests who claim community master plan

1226
01:53:49,827 --> 01:53:55,707
because in the limits or do you represent
the taxpayers land who live in gridlock

1227
01:53:55,707 --> 01:54:01,407
and strange in the resource of nine
mile ward. If the contract is Changes so

1228
01:54:01,407 --> 01:54:06,607
drastically it shouldn't be amended. It
should be thrown out and rebitted completely

1229
01:54:06,607 --> 01:54:13,187
and I will be talking about The megawatts
and all this stuff in the data center and

1230
01:54:13,187 --> 01:54:18,707
I also sent all of that to you Thank You
Francesca Kristie Rosen And after Kristie

1231
01:54:18,707 --> 01:54:20,367
is Janus morning

1232
01:54:25,747 --> 01:54:30,467
again commissioners. I hope you all fared
well during the storm Kristie Rosen,

1233
01:54:30,487 --> 01:54:36,107
if not us, I'm not as first on that well
matters as some of the speakers are.

1234
01:54:36,847 --> 01:54:40,127
But there's one thing I can speak on and
that's what I've experienced and I've

1235
01:54:40,127 --> 01:54:44,987
watched over the past few months. We've
watched the planning board members tell the

1236
01:54:44,987 --> 01:54:48,447
media that they regretted their votes
moving the process forward for these

1237
01:54:48,447 --> 01:54:53,787
developers. When it came before this
board, one lone commissioner seemed to side

1238
01:54:53,787 --> 01:54:58,727
with the planning board. Wanted to give them
the opportunity of a redo on that vote

1239
01:54:58,727 --> 01:55:03,477
and send the matter back to the planning
board. It seems like he was pressured off

1240
01:55:03,477 --> 01:55:07,597
from doing it by other board members until
the next meeting so that the developer

1241
01:55:07,597 --> 01:55:11,397
could be present. By the next
month reservations were gone.

1242
01:55:12,297 --> 01:55:15,737
Instead of going back to the planning
board as we were assured was the intention,

1243
01:55:16,297 --> 01:55:20,037
it was sent to the state for
their rather quick rubber stamp.

1244
01:55:21,367 --> 01:55:24,927
After it was returned from the state,
instead of this board insisting the planning

1245
01:55:24,927 --> 01:55:29,807
board now deserved that second crack at
it, they scheduled this and the second

1246
01:55:29,807 --> 01:55:33,297
public comment period. prior to the
scheduled planning board meeting.

1247
01:55:34,577 --> 01:55:39,417
If one of these things happen, it could be
a one -off. But this looks like a pattern

1248
01:55:39,417 --> 01:55:45,567
to us. Anyone on this board that has
referenced the developer has called him by his

1249
01:55:45,567 --> 01:55:46,867
first name.

1250
01:55:48,717 --> 01:55:54,057
At the last board meeting, the same
commissioner that had went so behind sending it

1251
01:55:54,057 --> 01:55:58,897
back to the planning board actually
referred to the developer as a client,

1252
01:55:59,557 --> 01:56:01,267
a client.

1253
01:56:03,607 --> 01:56:05,767
We deserve an explanation for this.

1254
01:56:07,547 --> 01:56:10,987
Both of these boards act like there
is a relationship with this developer.

1255
01:56:11,527 --> 01:56:14,447
The developer has been given the ability
to act as an agent for the county.

1256
01:56:15,067 --> 01:56:19,427
This relationship blurs the lines. The
relationship that should matter to these

1257
01:56:19,427 --> 01:56:23,907
boards is the relationship with your
constituents. The people have the power.

1258
01:56:24,247 --> 01:56:28,347
We entrust that power to you through our
votes. We trust that you will act in the

1259
01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:33,467
best interest of our community, not these
private interests. As I stated at the

1260
01:56:33,467 --> 01:56:38,167
planning board, I support smart development.
If you're not growing, you are dying.

1261
01:56:38,947 --> 01:56:41,827
Pensacola seems to be good about
building without planning the necessary

1262
01:56:41,827 --> 01:56:47,007
infrastructure. And here we are doing it
again. Based on Tri -W's outdated plans,

1263
01:56:47,147 --> 01:56:50,247
there were already going to be additional
traffic issues created on both Highway 90

1264
01:56:50,247 --> 01:56:55,587
as well as on I -10, both of which me and
my family drive. It seems the loser in

1265
01:56:55,587 --> 01:57:01,237
this deal are the people. The people who
worked for 10 long years only for all of

1266
01:57:01,237 --> 01:57:04,837
that they were promised to be ripped away
from them. From everyone that drives on

1267
01:57:04,837 --> 01:57:09,157
Nama Road or the western portion of
Florida I -10. Our trust and our faith,

1268
01:57:09,197 --> 01:57:12,137
what was left of it, and the system
working for the little people.

1269
01:57:13,617 --> 01:57:14,017
Please,

1270
01:57:15,287 --> 01:57:19,047
please let's build back our trust
in this. Let's do what's right.

1271
01:57:20,457 --> 01:57:23,937
It's us that matters, it's not
the private interest. Thank you.

1272
01:57:25,457 --> 01:57:30,027
Thank you, Kristy. Janice. And
after Janice is Todd Thompson.

1273
01:57:34,387 --> 01:57:38,987
Good morning. My name is Janice Deviney
and I have spoke here just once before but

1274
01:57:38,987 --> 01:57:43,807
it was on the data centers. But this
is on OLF 8 not outlying fields.

1275
01:57:44,567 --> 01:57:51,507
Well if they had a contract with
the developer for the entire plot

1276
01:57:51,507 --> 01:57:56,357
of land they have since.
decided they didn't want it.

1277
01:57:56,717 --> 01:58:00,757
I don't know if they didn't want it or if
the county has other plans for that extra

1278
01:58:00,757 --> 01:58:07,057
170 acres that's no longer in their plan.
But there is no excuse to let a developer

1279
01:58:07,057 --> 01:58:13,337
who's not going to purchase that land have
the right to change the zoning for that

1280
01:58:13,337 --> 01:58:13,717
land.

1281
01:58:15,367 --> 01:58:19,107
And I've said it at the zoning board
meeting that they shouldn't be doing this.

1282
01:58:19,187 --> 01:58:22,867
I'm going to say it here, that if
you're not going to purchase that land,

1283
01:58:23,007 --> 01:58:27,627
you have no right to be able to
change the zoning of that land.

1284
01:58:28,527 --> 01:58:35,047
So that's one thing. Secondly, when they
talked about the traffic analysis that they

1285
01:58:35,047 --> 01:58:41,267
had done, it was done in September of 25.
Well, since then they have changed the DPZ

1286
01:58:41,267 --> 01:58:45,647
to a master plan and that traffic
analysis has not been redone.

1287
01:58:46,287 --> 01:58:50,927
So you can't count on that either. And I'm
not gonna say that developers not doing a

1288
01:58:50,927 --> 01:58:54,507
good job. He's doing his job.
Are you guys doing your job?

1289
01:58:54,887 --> 01:58:58,687
Is the zoning board doing their job?
Is the planning board doing their job?

1290
01:58:59,047 --> 01:59:03,567
Because the developer's here to make
money. That's his number one agenda.

1291
01:59:04,647 --> 01:59:08,887
And I don't blame him. If I was a
developer, a business owner, I would be wanting to

1292
01:59:08,887 --> 01:59:12,907
watch my bottom line as well. But you guys
are the ones here that are supposed to be

1293
01:59:12,907 --> 01:59:18,777
protecting the people. And I also want to
know that in the contract, What happens if

1294
01:59:18,777 --> 01:59:23,597
he decides he doesn't even like the master
plan, but he's got the zoning all changed

1295
01:59:23,597 --> 01:59:28,417
How just the way he wants it is he gonna
subdivide that back out and sell it to

1296
01:59:28,417 --> 01:59:32,817
other people and not even develop it at
all What kind of protections have you put in

1297
01:59:32,817 --> 01:59:36,117
place for the citizens of
Escambia County? Thank you

1298
01:59:38,067 --> 01:59:42,287
Thank You Janice Todd Thompson
and after Todd is Chris curb

1299
01:59:46,157 --> 01:59:49,437
Good morning, to tops and presidency
of the greater Prince called Chamber of

1300
01:59:49,437 --> 01:59:56,377
Commerce almost two years ago our
board of directors voted to endorse

1301
01:59:56,377 --> 02:00:02,940
maintaining preserving the 170 acres for
Jobs and economic development that has been

1302
02:00:02,940 --> 02:00:09,020
maintained and is a part of this plan And
so I'm here today to speak in favor of

1303
02:00:09,020 --> 02:00:15,660
this We've come a long way. It's been out
for decades now that we've been working on

1304
02:00:15,660 --> 02:00:22,320
this and we're very close and this is
going to be Transformational it's going to be

1305
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:27,220
positive. It's going to bring those high
-paying quality jobs that our community

1306
02:00:27,220 --> 02:00:33,880
needs and you know we've we've
had these types of projects in the

1307
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:39,940
past where we've heard a lot of no we've
had the community maritime park we've had

1308
02:00:39,940 --> 02:00:45,840
baby federal but we said yes to
those and those have been extremely

1309
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:52,660
positive game -changing projects in
our community and we see the same

1310
02:00:52,660 --> 02:00:58,070
thing here so Let's say yes, we come a
long way, we're on the one yard line,

1311
02:00:58,310 --> 02:01:02,990
let's get it across the goal line. And
I do also just want to say, tomorrow,

1312
02:01:03,450 --> 02:01:09,410
I will have a few seconds left, we will
be having a first responders event at the

1313
02:01:09,410 --> 02:01:14,450
emergency operations center that will be
celebrating and saying thank you to our

1314
02:01:14,450 --> 02:01:19,170
emergency responders, our first responders, the
folks who did such a tremendous job

1315
02:01:19,170 --> 02:01:24,210
over the last week. And again,
thank you for your support of that.

1316
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:56,840
the - the - the - the - the - the - the -
the - the - the - the - the - the - the -

1317
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:56,840
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1318
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:56,900
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1319
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:56,900
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1320
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:56,900
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1321
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:56,900
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1322
02:01:56,900 --> 02:01:57,520
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1323
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:57,940
the - the - the - the - the - the - the -
the - the - the - the - the - the - the -

1324
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:04,800
future land use or an ordinance
that is going to impact

1325
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:11,590
flooding issues then I guess I can't
be silent on it because that's what I

1326
02:02:11,590 --> 02:02:18,400
do with them. Flood defenders protect the

1327
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:23,270
people from flooding that's what
I try to do that's my message.

1328
02:02:26,110 --> 02:02:31,420
Well this piece of property OLF is located
in the eight mile eleven mile creek

1329
02:02:31,420 --> 02:02:31,820
basin.

1330
02:02:33,420 --> 02:02:37,300
One of our worst flooding
basins in. A scammy county.

1331
02:02:38,380 --> 02:02:43,280
Hundred sixty homes flooded in up first
apart. From that eleven mile creek.

1332
02:02:45,590 --> 02:02:52,560
April twenty. Fourteen and - and
Sally there was a hundred of them that

1333
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:52,880
flooded.

1334
02:02:56,250 --> 02:02:58,970
People lost all their belongings.

1335
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:06,730
Some people got even sideways whether
their banking. insurance companies you know

1336
02:03:06,730 --> 02:03:12,090
that that a whole area in Bristol Park is
not even classified in your hundred -year

1337
02:03:12,090 --> 02:03:16,020
floodplain for your flood
insurance rate maps.

1338
02:03:16,700 --> 02:03:23,000
It's kind of strange don't you think
considering that many folks flooded.

1339
02:03:24,270 --> 02:03:31,270
My point being is our Florida
legislators passed some

1340
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:38,580
legislation three thirty nine point one
five seven for the statutes to utilize the

1341
02:03:38,580 --> 02:03:44,260
most up -to -date Noah rainfall
data for our state highway systems

1342
02:03:45,060 --> 02:03:48,560
What's really interesting
is Santa Rosa County?

1343
02:03:49,690 --> 02:03:56,510
On the 21st Commissioner Kerry Smith
brought up adopting Noah Atlas 15

1344
02:03:56,510 --> 02:04:00,330
when D.O.T. Adops it well they've already
adopted it by three thirty nine point one

1345
02:04:00,330 --> 02:04:04,760
five seven But no Atlas
15 comes out in 2027.

1346
02:04:06,830 --> 02:04:12,370
And it's the difference in rainfall
when you do stormwater calculations.

1347
02:04:12,730 --> 02:04:18,090
It's based off your area of land,
your historical precipitation data, and what your

1348
02:04:18,090 --> 02:04:21,390
standard is for that
historical precipitation data.

1349
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:26,680
And your perversary coverage
runoff, slope of the land.

1350
02:04:27,570 --> 02:04:31,190
Soil types where the water goes perks in
the ground where you're gonna have a wet

1351
02:04:31,190 --> 02:04:37,280
pond or drop on and if you're using
1979 rainfall data and you're not requiring your

1352
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:42,720
engineers to Utilize the most up -to -date
rainfall data, then you're failing at

1353
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:48,180
protecting the people. Thank you Chris. We
thank you your comments so much Flooding

1354
02:04:48,180 --> 02:04:51,780
matters just ask Noah And
after Mel is Kevin Wade

1355
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:58,640
Thank you chairman Hopper most penal for
one three southeast Bob let's forgive my

1356
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:02,960
appearance. We still don't have
any electrical Which is fine.

1357
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:08,020
We're fine. We've got generators and FPL
isn't even running behind And I'm bringing

1358
02:05:08,020 --> 02:05:12,240
FPL into this because I'm going to
address data centers on this and then work

1359
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:19,040
downwards to the development You know
FPL wants to sell electricity to data

1360
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:25,440
centers. Let's just like call a spade
a spade They consider that economic

1361
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:30,840
development. It is your job to
protect us from that sort of thing.

1362
02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:37,640
I am not speaking about our local reps
who I am very fond of, but Commissioner

1363
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:41,660
Stroberger, perhaps there was
an error when you said the 770.

1364
02:05:42,740 --> 02:05:49,660
Because anyone that wants to go to
steagle.net, S -T -E -A -G -A -L -L

1365
02:05:49,660 --> 02:05:56,120
dot net, Every five minutes
this is updated from FPL's own

1366
02:05:56,120 --> 02:06:02,660
data. There are right now over
15,000 people between Santa Rosa

1367
02:06:02,660 --> 02:06:08,300
and Escambia County without
power. There are 7,000,

1368
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:13,380
there are 7,700 people without
power in Escambia County.

1369
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,160
And the only reason the numbers are that
low is because they're running games with

1370
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:23,140
their fake restoration notices. They send
those out en masse, and then we all gotta

1371
02:06:23,140 --> 02:06:27,840
go run and put our tickets in. Right now,
I show that our power has only been down

1372
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:32,440
for a day, because I had to
put my second tickets back in.

1373
02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:40,290
I say this because OLF8 is naked
now because unfortunately the

1374
02:06:40,290 --> 02:06:46,370
OLF8 advocates stripped away the protections on
the data centers, which we beg them

1375
02:06:46,370 --> 02:06:53,330
not to do. And I feel for Teresa, you
know, watch out what you wish for as

1376
02:06:53,330 --> 02:06:58,950
an advocate in Escambia County. When anyone
calls me to say, I want something from

1377
02:06:58,950 --> 02:07:04,220
Escambia County, I say, are you
sure? Be careful what you wish for.

1378
02:07:04,780 --> 02:07:08,080
And then they tell me what they want, and
then off the top of my head I tell them

1379
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:13,920
the six ways it could go infinitely bad,
which is sadly why I've spent most of my

1380
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:19,240
time as an advocate fixing what got broken
instead of trying to build something from

1381
02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:23,720
the ground up. Because when you guys have
an amazing opportunity to do something

1382
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:30,520
like this, you're botching it. Because you're tired
and I get that you're so sick of

1383
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:34,720
it. We're all sick of it, too We don't
want to be down here who wants to be down

1384
02:07:34,720 --> 02:07:39,700
here the day after a hurricane, but I am
begging you what a total abnegation of

1385
02:07:39,700 --> 02:07:44,260
responsibility This is not the
developers fault People hate it.

1386
02:07:44,380 --> 02:07:48,060
I've said it over the years, don't blame
the developers. And when we get to the

1387
02:07:48,060 --> 02:07:53,180
procurement stuff, don't blame the vendors.
Not on developers, not on vendors.

1388
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:57,540
It's three votes on this board that
make things happen or not happen.

1389
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:02,160
Thank you, Mel. We appreciate your comments.
Kevin Wade. And after Kevin Wade is

1390
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:02,820
Teresa Blackwell.

1391
02:08:09,350 --> 02:08:15,580
Kevin Wade, 4 -3 Southeast Boblitz. I've
been preaching best practices over and over

1392
02:08:15,580 --> 02:08:20,720
and over again with neighbors who keep
calling saying, this is happening,

1393
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:23,840
that's happening, FPL says I've got power.

1394
02:08:25,690 --> 02:08:31,170
Four commissioners followed best
practices at a meeting where DPZ

1395
02:08:31,450 --> 02:08:33,650
was chosen.

1396
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:39,660
Doug Underhill tanked his scores so badly.

1397
02:08:40,790 --> 02:08:47,350
So badly he made a couple of
people really happy but his scores

1398
02:08:47,350 --> 02:08:53,650
criminal the way that
played Absolutely criminal

1399
02:08:53,650 --> 02:09:00,430
not best practices Okay,
people turn off your main

1400
02:09:00,430 --> 02:09:06,110
breaker When all your big big things
come on in your house when the power gets

1401
02:09:06,110 --> 02:09:13,080
restored There might be a surge. All
right Turn things off slow or turn things

1402
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:14,220
back on slowly

1403
02:09:15,660 --> 02:09:22,260
Olf 8 has been going for
what four decades now That

1404
02:09:23,540 --> 02:09:24,880
was a great dream

1405
02:09:26,260 --> 02:09:33,090
Copy you came into this board Won you
fire sale fire sale we can I believe

1406
02:09:33,090 --> 02:09:39,850
we can get get olf 8 moved along
immediately all the all the prior boards

1407
02:09:39,850 --> 02:09:45,450
Took a long time I want
best practices on this.

1408
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:49,770
I want, I really, really want

1409
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:57,760
this board, the developers,
and the citizens who

1410
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:04,400
look at that to be sitting there
and going over fine -tooth comb,

1411
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:06,100
getting this right.

1412
02:10:07,450 --> 02:10:08,630
And Amazon,

1413
02:10:12,460 --> 02:10:15,160
Amazon now has plug and play.

1414
02:10:16,460 --> 02:10:23,040
If they bring in a building, they can plug
and play it to be any kind of building

1415
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:29,540
that they want. Right now we've
got warehouses that used to package

1416
02:10:29,540 --> 02:10:32,240
soybeans. They're prisons now.

1417
02:10:34,980 --> 02:10:41,540
This administration is paying major millions
of dollars more for buildings that used

1418
02:10:41,540 --> 02:10:44,580
to package soybeans to be prisons now.

1419
02:10:46,510 --> 02:10:52,910
We don't want that here. We want best
practices start to finish on this.

1420
02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:58,890
And Commissioner Berry and Commissioner
May, you were there for so many of these

1421
02:10:58,890 --> 02:11:05,770
discussions over and over and over again.
And you two have done so good in this.

1422
02:11:06,430 --> 02:11:09,590
And I don't want them misled anymore.

1423
02:11:10,940 --> 02:11:15,380
Thank you. Thank you, Kevin. Teresa
Blackwell. And then after Teresa is Pepper.

1424
02:11:28,530 --> 02:11:32,590
Good morning Teresa Blackwell
and I live in Beulah.

1425
02:11:33,550 --> 02:11:39,190
Tri -W's design code rewrite will dismantle
the heart of the DPZ master plan.

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02:11:39,570 --> 02:11:43,090
The plan the county adopted
after years of public engagement.

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02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:49,430
Their design code strays far from the
adopted DPZ master plan and the public process

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02:11:49,430 --> 02:11:54,530
that shaped it. When the county asked
Bula residents which early plan they

1429
02:11:54,530 --> 02:11:58,990
preferred, it was the village plan
that wove agriculture through the site.

1430
02:11:59,350 --> 02:12:05,190
The compromise DPZ master plan preserved
that spirit by allowing agriculture in

1431
02:12:05,190 --> 02:12:11,490
residential areas. As a containment resident
noted, Tri -W's replacement code does

1432
02:12:11,490 --> 02:12:16,230
not allow agriculture in residential
areas, erasing the future of Bula.

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02:12:17,260 --> 02:12:23,600
valued most. TRI -W's rewrite dramatically
increases building size and attempt and

1434
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:29,220
intensity, they're building heights are up
by two stories and it allows much larger

1435
02:12:29,220 --> 02:12:35,640
buildings resulting in nearly twice the
possible density as the code from DPZ

1436
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:41,260
permitted. That is a fundamental shift
away from the small town scale the public

1437
02:12:41,260 --> 02:12:45,520
supported. Travel lanes are
widened to highway dimension.

1438
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:49,960
Block size standards are gone.
On street parking is restricted.

1439
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:56,120
Sidewalks and bike loans. or lanes are
optional. It reintroduces industrial uses

1440
02:12:56,120 --> 02:13:02,280
like warehouses. Marina Curry of DPC
wrote, the tri -w's planner misrepresented the

1441
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:07,540
adopted code on building heights,
permitted uses, parks, block structure,

1442
02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:13,060
and street standards. She warned the
rewrite shifts, olevate away from form -based

1443
02:13:13,060 --> 02:13:19,620
walkable mixed use to conventional
suburbia, calling the process shameful

1444
02:13:19,620 --> 02:13:23,780
and demoralizing. Bueller
residents see it too.

1445
02:13:24,180 --> 02:13:28,780
A local construction professional put it
this way. It's reasonable to want to be

1446
02:13:28,780 --> 02:13:34,000
profitable. It is another thing to be
willing to maximize profits at the expense of

1447
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:38,700
the local community. That is not something
a good person or a good company does.

1448
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:44,680
It is point blank morally objectionable.
All most people are asking is for them to

1449
02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:49,760
stick to the master plan, actually just
the design code in my case, instead of

1450
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:55,180
figuring out a way of extracting every single
penny out of that land at the cost of

1451
02:13:55,180 --> 02:13:59,520
everyone around them. As far as being a
hometown man, there are lots of criminals

1452
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:00,740
from around here too.

1453
02:14:02,990 --> 02:14:09,410
Any amendments to the DPC Design Code must
be justified and faithful to the original

1454
02:14:09,410 --> 02:14:14,150
code's intent. Tri -W's document
is not generally consistent.

1455
02:14:15,070 --> 02:14:21,510
Just trust me is a recipe for failure and
if that is how our commissioner approaches

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02:14:21,510 --> 02:14:28,390
it Bula will remember
Thank you Thank You Teresa

1457
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:30,630
pepper you're next and

1458
02:14:32,330 --> 02:14:35,070
after pepper is Chad Henderson Hey,

1459
02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:40,110
y 'all I've just got some notes. So I'm
gonna just start with some comments.

1460
02:14:40,110 --> 02:14:45,860
So First of all, why are we? giving
the developer a huge discount.

1461
02:14:46,020 --> 02:14:50,740
This thing hasn't been appraised in forever.
We're talking about tax cuts and we're

1462
02:14:50,740 --> 02:14:53,600
going to just give them a big old
discount. That doesn't make any sense.

1463
02:14:54,910 --> 02:14:59,090
Public notice is meaningless if the
proposal remains a moving target.

1464
02:14:59,630 --> 02:15:05,450
The announcement by Mr. Brewer at the
planning board last week or whatever appeared

1465
02:15:05,450 --> 02:15:09,990
to apply pressure on the planning board
because he made sure that everybody knew

1466
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:14,990
that we would be here speaking about this
and that's not their job to let us know.

1467
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:20,330
So that just appears to apply pressure.
On top of this large number of suits we've

1468
02:15:20,330 --> 02:15:22,990
got here, they're probably
staring you down on this item.

1469
02:15:24,430 --> 02:15:30,310
So at the planning board meeting the
paperwork for the rezoning like Janice talked

1470
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:35,410
about included the entire property not the
planned purchase part What's up with that

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02:15:35,410 --> 02:15:39,610
not generally consistent
with the 2020 DPZ plan.

1472
02:15:39,610 --> 02:15:45,810
It's not generally consistent County
legal has provided no bridge between a

1473
02:15:45,810 --> 02:15:51,850
consistent update and With the total
replacement, but we're gonna adopt

1474
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:59,800
why after All the lack of representation
is the developer entrusted with doing the

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02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:00,680
impact study.

1476
02:16:03,260 --> 02:16:06,940
We already have no
representation on this deal.

1477
02:16:07,420 --> 02:16:09,940
We're the stakeholders and
we deserve representation.

1478
02:16:11,740 --> 02:16:17,550
And our time has been cut because These
are two items that somebody put into one.

1479
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:21,470
This should have been two items for us to
speak on. And I don't know who wrote that

1480
02:16:21,470 --> 02:16:25,910
agenda, but somebody did that. So
y 'all are silencing the public.

1481
02:16:27,410 --> 02:16:31,450
The plan is using old
data for transportation.

1482
02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:36,460
We're not gonna look at traffic. The traffic
in the last few years has gotten a lot

1483
02:16:36,460 --> 02:16:42,240
worse. I drive up there all the time.
My daughter's best friend lives in Bula.

1484
02:16:42,860 --> 02:16:47,400
So I drive up there, the traffic is
getting worse over the years. So why are we

1485
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:51,120
gonna adopt a plan that hasn't
done an updated traffic study?

1486
02:16:54,010 --> 02:16:58,130
So that's about it. I don't know
what's going on, but this is crazy.

1487
02:17:03,030 --> 02:17:07,390
Thank you pepper we appreciate your comments
and your input Chad Henderson your next

1488
02:17:07,390 --> 02:17:08,030
it

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02:17:36,060 --> 02:17:37,000
will be

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02:17:41,870 --> 02:17:45,090
Madam chair members I was hoping I could
make a presentation on behalf of the

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02:17:45,090 --> 02:17:49,430
applicant before mr. Henderson speaks in
conclusion How long is the presentation?

1492
02:17:50,610 --> 02:17:52,910
It's just a few minutes, okay

1493
02:17:54,250 --> 02:17:58,330
It more than more than three I thought I
might get a little more Liberty on behalf

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02:17:58,330 --> 02:18:02,870
of the applicant to present to the board.
Yes, sir I understand. Thank you And are

1495
02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:04,910
you able to see the slides on your
screen there? We go right there. Okay,

1496
02:18:04,910 --> 02:18:08,860
great. Thank you Okay, just to be clear,
yes, I'm going to answer that question.

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02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:12,580
They get more than three because several
people had questions for them and I'm

1498
02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:16,220
expecting him to answer those questions in
the presentation. That's why I held them

1499
02:18:16,220 --> 02:18:20,540
to the end. So I'm hoping that this group
was taking notes of everyone that came up

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02:18:20,540 --> 02:18:24,300
and everyone that had concerns and I want
to make sure all of those questions are

1501
02:18:24,300 --> 02:18:27,620
properly answered and I'm assuming that's
going to take longer than three minutes.

1502
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:32,660
So that is why they will receive amount
of time until we're satisfied with what's

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02:18:32,660 --> 02:18:36,540
being presented. Yes, sir. Thank
you so much. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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02:18:37,560 --> 02:18:40,300
Members, good morning. My name is Tru
Brewer. I'm an attorney at Phelps Dunbar here

1505
02:18:40,300 --> 02:18:44,960
in Pensacola. My firm and I represent the
Wilson and Henderson team, the applicant

1506
02:18:44,960 --> 02:18:48,320
before you on this legislative item, and
of course the purchaser under the contract

1507
02:18:48,320 --> 02:18:49,400
with the county for LFA.

1508
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:55,180
We're here today on the first of
two required legislative hearings on our action

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02:18:55,180 --> 02:18:59,320
item to amend the land development code
to adopt our proposed master plan design

1510
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:03,080
code and regulating plan. As you may
recall our contract with the county requires us

1511
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:07,380
to obtain certain land use approvals as a
condition proceeding to our obligation to

1512
02:19:07,380 --> 02:19:11,080
purchase the property. The contract requires
both parties, my client and the county,

1513
02:19:11,380 --> 02:19:15,700
to diligently process zoning, future land
use and other changes and with help from

1514
02:19:15,700 --> 02:19:19,450
county staff and county attorney's office
we've done exactly that. We presented our

1515
02:19:19,450 --> 02:19:22,710
plan to the Planning and Zoning Board back
in September as a discussion item only

1516
02:19:22,710 --> 02:19:26,170
for the purpose of soliciting questions and
input from that board and for members of

1517
02:19:26,170 --> 02:19:30,030
the public as well. We appeared again
before the Planning and Zoning Board last

1518
02:19:30,030 --> 02:19:34,470
Tuesday, October 6th. We had a revised
presentation to provide key updates and to

1519
02:19:34,470 --> 02:19:37,770
answer those questions and issues raised by
that board and by members of the public.

1520
02:19:38,490 --> 02:19:42,650
After our presentation, the Planning and
Zoning Board voted to recommend approval to

1521
02:19:42,650 --> 02:19:45,570
this body of our proposed
master plan and design code.

1522
02:19:47,070 --> 02:19:51,670
Just a reminder on the process outlined
in orange is where we are today solely for

1523
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:55,190
the legislative hearing the first of two
required regarding the adoption of the

1524
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:59,550
proposed LDC amendments which are a believer
in your packets. As we mentioned to the

1525
02:19:59,550 --> 02:20:02,490
planning and zoning board last Tuesday
in mid -September we received written

1526
02:20:02,490 --> 02:20:06,150
correspondence back from the various state
agencies with oversight on our proposed

1527
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:09,230
amendments to the future land use
designation and the comprehensive plan.

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02:20:09,730 --> 02:20:14,570
All such agencies indicated they had no
requested edits no questions or requests for

1529
02:20:14,570 --> 02:20:19,070
clarification and all indicated our proposals
would have no adverse impacts to the

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02:20:19,070 --> 02:20:23,430
areas they're overcharged in seeing and
that includes traffic impacts according to

1531
02:20:23,430 --> 02:20:27,530
FDOT and impacts to the environment according to
FDEP. As you know this board met on

1532
02:20:27,530 --> 02:20:30,850
Thursday October 1st and voted to set
these two hearings you see at the bottom.

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02:20:31,610 --> 02:20:35,870
Today's first legislative hearing and then
full and final hearings on November 5th

1534
02:20:35,870 --> 02:20:39,430
for potential approval of all these items
are changed to the FLU, are changed to the

1535
02:20:39,430 --> 02:20:43,290
comprehensive plan, This legislative
matter and then the rezoning quadrature

1536
02:20:43,290 --> 02:20:47,070
judicial proceeding will all be up for
final approval before you on November 5th.

1537
02:20:54,620 --> 02:20:57,980
I want to be expressly clear that our
intent from the very beginning of this process

1538
02:20:57,980 --> 02:21:02,100
was to build our master plan in congruence
with the original goals of the existing

1539
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:06,760
DPZ master plan. Our team respects the
time, effort and input that went into

1540
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:10,880
developing that plan. Our proposed plan
builds on the core fundamentals of the

1541
02:21:10,880 --> 02:21:14,240
existing plan and further aligns our
goals with the shared priorities of the

1542
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:18,490
community and the county for a master
plan community focused on walkability,

1543
02:21:18,950 --> 02:21:22,450
on green space, on commerce, and on
job creation. There are differences.

1544
02:21:23,090 --> 02:21:26,510
Our plan is significantly simplified,
managed by a single regulating plan rather

1545
02:21:26,510 --> 02:21:29,970
than four in our development area plan and
thoroughfare plans and numerous technical

1546
02:21:29,970 --> 02:21:34,490
reports. We've increased green space substantially
with green space and parks in

1547
02:21:34,490 --> 02:21:39,010
every district and green space in total
amount of over 100 acres of the 540 acre

1548
02:21:39,010 --> 02:21:43,310
property. Roads in our proposed plans are
wider and designed to meet county road

1549
02:21:43,310 --> 02:21:46,970
standards from the moment they're
constructed. Maximum building heights are changed.

1550
02:21:47,260 --> 02:21:51,020
to give us the ability to pursue those
high -end job creators and employers like a

1551
02:21:51,020 --> 02:21:55,520
Navy Federal, like a bird -on, like an
STI, who want to see entitled land allowing

1552
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:59,360
them to design and build the types of
facilities necessary to support those high

1553
02:21:59,360 --> 02:21:59,920
-paying jobs.

1554
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:09,270
Our master plan envisions a mixed
-use pedestrian -oriented community organized into

1555
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:14,030
distinct districts, much like the existing
plan. Specific uses may include an active

1556
02:22:14,030 --> 02:22:18,990
adult community, daycare facilities, educational
sites, a church site, post office,

1557
02:22:19,230 --> 02:22:23,590
entertainment venues. a town green
and a centralized town center. Again,

1558
02:22:23,730 --> 02:22:28,070
our plans design goals aligned directly
with the existing plan, centering on mixed

1559
02:22:28,070 --> 02:22:32,310
use, a vibrant town center, on job
creation and on pedestrian orientation.

1560
02:22:33,390 --> 02:22:37,270
Some of our changes include a
reorientation of the districts, in particular moving

1561
02:22:37,270 --> 02:22:40,450
the residential district to the northwest
corner of the property to align with the

1562
02:22:40,450 --> 02:22:44,760
adjacent residential uses up in that corner.
We've moved the light industrial use to

1563
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:48,170
the northeast corner of the property to
align with adjacent uses. and we've located

1564
02:22:48,170 --> 02:22:51,510
our town center truly in the center of the
development so that no matter where you

1565
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:54,690
are on the property you're no more
than five mile half a mile away.

1566
02:22:58,490 --> 02:23:01,170
This slide highlights one of our core
alignments with the existing plan.

1567
02:23:01,170 --> 02:23:05,720
Our grid and road overlay are
is effectively identical. The block sizes we've

1568
02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:08,800
proposed are identical in size to
what is shown under the current plan.

1569
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:13,790
What's not shown here are our internal
roadways which will decrease block size and

1570
02:23:13,790 --> 02:23:17,230
result in a finer -grained, more walkable
street network throughout the development

1571
02:23:17,230 --> 02:23:21,330
and enhanced connectivity and pedestrian
accessibility across all districts.

1572
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:33,160
This slide we prepared following the
discussions and questions at the Planning and

1573
02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:36,840
Zoning Board on road widths, and I believe
the illustration is extremely helpful.

1574
02:23:37,340 --> 02:23:41,080
This is a cross -section of our proposed
roadway featuring a 12 -foot lane road

1575
02:23:41,080 --> 02:23:44,820
width with only 10 and a half feet
of actual pavement for a travel lane.

1576
02:23:45,500 --> 02:23:49,240
There's two -foot curbs, there's 12 and
a half foot planning and utility areas.

1577
02:23:49,580 --> 02:23:53,700
There's five foot sidewalks on each
side, meaning a total 60 ft right of way.

1578
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:57,020
Again, this is a common roadway, not
every roadway within our development.

1579
02:23:57,520 --> 02:24:01,200
A road installed in accordance with
in accordance with this design immediately meets

1580
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:05,440
county design standards, unlike the existing
plan. Currently, the minimum road with

1581
02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:09,320
throughout most of the existing plan is 10
ft. So the actual difference in the width

1582
02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:13,080
of our travel lanes, meaning the single
lane on a vehicle travels one way is only

1583
02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:17,040
half a foot. Mere inches on either side
and all the studies we reviewed have showed

1584
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,820
there is no adverse impacts to safety
based on a change of that size.

1585
02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:30,470
Our plan places a heavy priority on green
space. More than 100 acres of the 540 acre

1586
02:24:30,470 --> 02:24:34,850
site are dedicated to green space, including
an 83 acre community open space with a

1587
02:24:34,850 --> 02:24:39,230
10 acre lake, a six acre seasonal park,
a two acre town center central green,

1588
02:24:39,810 --> 02:24:43,670
and a 1.2 acre green for the
residential district on Frank Rita Road.

1589
02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:47,350
Additional features that aren't counted
in those 100 acres are the buffers,

1590
02:24:47,900 --> 02:24:51,500
to preserve wetlands, tree -lined streets,
landscape islands, medians, and building

1591
02:24:51,500 --> 02:24:55,300
frontage that will all be green
and beautiful. The proposed plan creates multiple

1592
02:24:55,300 --> 02:24:58,980
green and open space options throughout
all districts, addressing our view that the

1593
02:24:58,980 --> 02:25:00,600
existing plan is a little concrete heavy.

1594
02:25:03,950 --> 02:25:07,350
This slide shows some of the core elements
that are shared between the two plans,

1595
02:25:07,470 --> 02:25:10,930
but I'll have you note on the left side
of the screen is the existing plan to our

1596
02:25:10,930 --> 02:25:13,470
point that it is concrete heavy. Look at
all that impervious cover and all that

1597
02:25:13,470 --> 02:25:16,370
parking compared to our plan, which
is much more green and much more open.

1598
02:25:17,010 --> 02:25:20,450
The proposed plan retains eight core
site elements from the existing plan.

1599
02:25:20,950 --> 02:25:25,410
A walkable town center, a residential
district, civic uses, low impact development

1600
02:25:25,410 --> 02:25:29,330
for storm water management, parking at the
rear of buildings, preserved open spaces,

1601
02:25:29,550 --> 02:25:33,540
and light industrial and commercial uses,
all in the existing plan. We have four new

1602
02:25:33,540 --> 02:25:37,340
additions. We have a connection to
Buell Road. We preserve more open space

1603
02:25:37,340 --> 02:25:40,340
throughout all districts. We have
preserved some of the historic elements,

1604
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:44,040
the historic landing site on the property.
We provide multiple housing options for a

1605
02:25:44,040 --> 02:25:47,590
broader range of residents. You can see
the differences in how we've arranged the

1606
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:51,130
district for more consistency with the
existing and adjacent uses and you can

1607
02:25:51,130 --> 02:25:53,530
clearly see our emphasis on green
space throughout the development.

1608
02:26:00,660 --> 02:26:04,200
In conclusion, members, here's our plan.
District boundaries are clearly outlined

1609
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:07,840
and I've got a full few bullet points to
kind of summarize my points made in the

1610
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:11,380
presentation today. It is abundantly
clear, members, that our plan is very much

1611
02:26:11,380 --> 02:26:14,980
consistent with the existing plan and it
embodies its core principles and spirit.

1612
02:26:15,520 --> 02:26:19,260
changes we propose to the plan and the
design code allow us to account for certain

1613
02:26:19,260 --> 02:26:23,260
market economic and engineering conditions
that were not contemplated or existing

1614
02:26:23,260 --> 02:26:27,060
when the current plan and code were
created. This is a vibrant, walkable,

1615
02:26:27,220 --> 02:26:30,320
open and green mixed use development.
It will not only attract residents,

1616
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:34,340
but will also greatly serve both the developer
and the county as we look to compete

1617
02:26:34,340 --> 02:26:38,000
with cities like Mobile, like
Jacksonville, Huntsville and Charleston and enticing

1618
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:42,100
employers to locate here in northwest Florida
to bring great high paying jobs for

1619
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:45,900
our citizens. Throughout this process
we have prioritized open honest and

1620
02:26:45,900 --> 02:26:50,260
transparent communication with all stakeholders
Their input is directly reflected in

1621
02:26:50,260 --> 02:26:53,640
the plan before you today. We look forward
to bringing this plan to fruition for

1622
02:26:53,640 --> 02:26:58,230
Escambia County Additionally, we've received some
questions from the design plan and

1623
02:26:58,230 --> 02:27:02,770
from Vice Chairman Strowburger Mr. Vice
Chairman, I would like to address those

1624
02:27:02,770 --> 02:27:06,010
questions here today openly and for all
the members of the Commission to hear and

1625
02:27:06,010 --> 02:27:09,150
all members of the public as well And
so if you'll allow a walk through those

1626
02:27:09,150 --> 02:27:11,010
questions that we received
and provide you some answers

1627
02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:17,660
First question, do you believe your
proposed codes preserves the original DPZ

1628
02:27:17,660 --> 02:27:21,160
commitment to a compact, walkable, and mixed
-use community? And as you've seen in

1629
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:24,500
this presentation, absolutely it
does. We've relocated the town center,

1630
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:27,220
so it's a half mile away from anybody, no
matter where you are in the development.

1631
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:31,840
The previous plan, the current plan, places
the town center on West 9 Mile Road,

1632
02:27:31,960 --> 02:27:34,200
so if you're on the northern part of the
development, you're a mile away or more.

1633
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:39,140
The Outlying Fields Plan, our plan,
prioritizes pedestrians and provides for many

1634
02:27:39,140 --> 02:27:42,320
proven methods of traffic calming,
which is key in enhancing walkability.

1635
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:47,160
For example, Streets are primary primarily
curve linear or diagonal with many

1636
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:51,020
medians and varying conditions. This breaks
up the drivers experience and avoids

1637
02:27:51,020 --> 02:27:54,560
long stretch stretches where you can
build up speed. Street trees are provided

1638
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:58,460
throughout the development. We have long
long sections of interrupted road are

1639
02:27:58,460 --> 02:28:02,800
avoided with intersections provided by
streets and driveways. The use of textured

1640
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:08,140
pavement and raised crosswalks further
decreases speed and enhances safety and on

1641
02:28:08,140 --> 02:28:12,260
tree parking is throughout provided throughout
the site. Next there was a question

1642
02:28:12,260 --> 02:28:15,910
about Why are plan permitted larger blocks?
It doesn't. I showed you that slide

1643
02:28:15,910 --> 02:28:20,170
previously. It has the exact same block
sizes as the existing plan allows.

1644
02:28:22,010 --> 02:28:24,850
Another question that's been answered in
my presentation, why are 12 -foot travel

1645
02:28:24,850 --> 02:28:28,290
lanes proposed on internal streets?
Again, so they can immediately meet county

1646
02:28:28,290 --> 02:28:31,570
design standards and allow us to achieve
dedication with no issues when that time

1647
02:28:31,570 --> 02:28:36,020
comes. The existing county design manual
calls for a 12 -foot wide travel lane as

1648
02:28:36,020 --> 02:28:39,940
measured from the center stripe to the
face of the curb. So we have 18 inches of

1649
02:28:39,940 --> 02:28:43,890
curb. and gutter. So again, our travel
lanes are 10.5 feet and the existing plan

1650
02:28:43,890 --> 02:28:45,830
allows for 10 feet difference of inches.

1651
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:52,220
Why do several proposed street sections have right
of ways ranging from 80 to 120 ft

1652
02:28:52,220 --> 02:28:56,140
and how are wits of that scale compatible
with the stated goal of creating a

1653
02:28:56,140 --> 02:29:00,950
walkable small town environment? These are
our widest wide of rights of way in our

1654
02:29:00,950 --> 02:29:04,490
development and they're assigned to
boulevards that contain multiple travel lanes,

1655
02:29:04,850 --> 02:29:09,400
broad sidewalks and feature street tree
and furniture strips. These are the main

1656
02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:13,440
north, south, east, west thoroughfares in
our development. And it's also noteworthy

1657
02:29:13,440 --> 02:29:18,260
that the existing plan allows for rideways
in a maximum amount of 100 to 115 feet.

1658
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,420
So it's a five foot difference
between our proposal.

1659
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:25,500
Why are sidewalks optional on certain
street types, including local for mid block

1660
02:29:25,500 --> 02:29:30,060
one and the E. T. I. Boulevard and will
you agree to require sidewalks or shared

1661
02:29:30,060 --> 02:29:31,140
youth pass throughout the development?

1662
02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:36,840
Sidewalks are only optional under our plan
on portions of roads when not serving an

1663
02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:40,680
adjacent use or when pedestrians are
encouraged to use another sidewalk route.

1664
02:29:41,140 --> 02:29:44,960
For example, pedestrian traffic is directed
in front of buildings and near entrances

1665
02:29:44,960 --> 02:29:48,820
and not along the portion of the road
through the rear of a light industrial use,

1666
02:29:48,880 --> 02:29:52,660
for example. Along the ETI Boulevard,
sidewalks are placed adjacent to the parking

1667
02:29:52,660 --> 02:29:53,980
bays for better access and safety.

1668
02:29:55,410 --> 02:29:59,150
Which streets, trails, sidewalks, and
pedestrian passages will be guaranteed to

1669
02:29:59,150 --> 02:30:02,660
connect to surrounding neighborhoods and
which connections are merely shown as

1670
02:30:02,660 --> 02:30:06,960
optional. Connections from OLF will be
made to existing roads, Frank Rita Road,

1671
02:30:07,140 --> 02:30:11,200
West Nine Mile, and Beulah Road, and the
existing access drive at the Navy Federal

1672
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:16,560
Credit Union Recreational Area. It is
notable that the outline field's plan presents

1673
02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:19,920
that access to Beulah Road where the
existing plan, the current plan does not.

1674
02:30:20,780 --> 02:30:25,260
Will all streets, sidewalks, trails, parks,
plazas, and other public spaces remain

1675
02:30:25,260 --> 02:30:29,380
open and accessible to the public even if
they are privately owned and maintained?

1676
02:30:29,900 --> 02:30:30,080
Yes.

1677
02:30:31,420 --> 02:30:34,480
How much land will be devoted to
genuine usable parks and civic spaces,

1678
02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,500
excluding wetlands, buffers, medians,
drainage ponds, landscape setbacks,

1679
02:30:38,860 --> 02:30:44,140
and inaccessible stormwater facilities?
Our community's civic district alone

1680
02:30:44,140 --> 02:30:50,100
contains 118.7 acres of green space and
includes multiple areas designated to both

1681
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:55,280
civic and open spaces. By itself, that
district alone exceeds the 15% requirement on

1682
02:30:55,280 --> 02:31:00,060
green space, which is 80 acres of our
538 -acre tract. Dedicated open space and

1683
02:31:00,060 --> 02:31:04,420
public areas outside of the commercial
district total an additional 17.25 acres.

1684
02:31:06,020 --> 02:31:09,660
Why should stormwater facilities count toward
required open space and what standards

1685
02:31:09,660 --> 02:31:13,200
will ensure that any facility receiving
open space credit is accessible,

1686
02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:18,260
usable, attractive, and connected to the
pedestrian network? First of all our plan

1687
02:31:18,260 --> 02:31:22,180
does not rely on stormwater facilities to
satisfy open space credits or requirements

1688
02:31:22,180 --> 02:31:26,400
as indicated as we indicate above We
note that section 2.7 of the design code

1689
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:30,340
includes specific standards for the open
spaces to ensure that they meet the intent

1690
02:31:30,340 --> 02:31:34,930
of the master plan What uses have been
added or expanded in the commerce service and

1691
02:31:34,930 --> 02:31:38,510
employment technology and innovation
districts compared with the DPZ code?

1692
02:31:38,970 --> 02:31:43,190
Particularly warehouses wholesale warehouses
distribution activities flex space

1693
02:31:43,190 --> 02:31:47,510
manufacturing and maintenance facilities
First it should be noted that warehouse

1694
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:51,430
maintenance facility, wholesale warehouse
and manufacturing, meaning light

1695
02:31:51,430 --> 02:31:55,470
industrial, are not new uses. They
are existing uses in the current plan.

1696
02:31:56,210 --> 02:32:00,490
Second, distribution is not allowed in
either our plan or the existing plan.

1697
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:05,420
A few changes in use in the E.T.I.
District, most like the current Z4.

1698
02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:09,900
And note, this is the district to be
retained by the county. So these uses are going

1699
02:32:09,900 --> 02:32:14,500
to be subject to the county approval when
they come in one by one to you to engage

1700
02:32:14,500 --> 02:32:19,110
those uses in your property. Dormitories are
added as a conditional use only if part

1701
02:32:19,110 --> 02:32:23,550
of a technical training school automotive
fuel has been added educational facilities

1702
02:32:23,550 --> 02:32:27,330
have been added office space government
office space has been added parks

1703
02:32:27,330 --> 02:32:31,970
preservation conservation added passive
recreation has been added cold storage and

1704
02:32:31,970 --> 02:32:36,530
freezer and agricultural research have
all been added will you agree to prohibit

1705
02:32:36,530 --> 02:32:40,490
standalone distribution centers and
large speculative warehouses rather than

1706
02:32:40,490 --> 02:32:44,150
allowing them to qualify under broader
terms such as light industry flex space

1707
02:32:44,150 --> 02:32:47,690
wholesale warehouse or wholesale
warehouse maintenance facility.

1708
02:32:48,950 --> 02:32:52,410
Distribution centers are not an
allowed use under our plan. Ultimately,

1709
02:32:52,570 --> 02:32:56,070
warehouses, speculative otherwise, and
light industry would be located within the

1710
02:32:56,070 --> 02:32:58,990
ETI district. Again, as I mentioned, the
district that the county will maintain

1711
02:32:58,990 --> 02:33:03,230
ownership of. And it will be up to
the county. The county will have every right to

1712
02:33:03,230 --> 02:33:04,970
further limit those uses as it sees fit.

1713
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:08,980
Why are substantial off -street parking
areas needed in the town center?

1714
02:33:09,820 --> 02:33:12,560
There could be off -street parking
required for multifamily in the town center.

1715
02:33:12,830 --> 02:33:16,230
However, those off -street parking
areas are located adjacent to and behind

1716
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:20,410
buildings containing multifamily housings
with the buildings oriented on the main

1717
02:33:20,410 --> 02:33:24,880
street or on the northern edge of the
town center to provide shared overflow or

1718
02:33:24,880 --> 02:33:27,900
parking. All of this is consistent
with a walkable compact development.

1719
02:33:28,980 --> 02:33:32,380
Which design requirements are mandatory
and enforceable and which will use

1720
02:33:32,380 --> 02:33:36,140
discretionary language such as should,
encourage, where possible, or should follow.

1721
02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:40,520
Will you agree to replace
discretionary language governing essential public benefits

1722
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:45,730
with shall? Design Code Section 1.3 sets
out how the design code uses mandatory and

1723
02:33:45,730 --> 02:33:49,930
discretionary terms. Provisions using shall
or must or mandatory, and enforceable.

1724
02:33:50,450 --> 02:33:54,570
And any departure from them requires a
formal variance. Provisions using should,

1725
02:33:54,670 --> 02:33:58,950
encouraged, or where possible, state design
intent and guidance. They let the county

1726
02:33:58,950 --> 02:34:03,110
and applicant reach the intended result
through more than one acceptable design

1727
02:34:03,110 --> 02:34:07,410
solution, rather than a single prescribed
one. The essential public benefits,

1728
02:34:07,590 --> 02:34:11,410
including the town center, civic and open
spaces, and required liner buildings are

1729
02:34:11,410 --> 02:34:16,150
fixed by shell requirements, not by
discretionary language. Using should for

1730
02:34:16,150 --> 02:34:20,190
aesthetic purposes and site -specific
details while reserving shell for core

1731
02:34:20,190 --> 02:34:23,850
structural elements is consistent with
sound drafting of design codes and master

1732
02:34:23,850 --> 02:34:24,850
plan documents.

1733
02:34:26,250 --> 02:34:29,570
Once the code and regulating plan
are approved, what presents future administrative

1734
02:34:29,570 --> 02:34:34,470
variances, subdivision changes, road modifications,
or master plan amendments from

1735
02:34:34,470 --> 02:34:37,870
eliminating the walkable street
network, the town center, civic spaces,

1736
02:34:38,290 --> 02:34:40,890
or the mixed use character or other
features that we presented in our plan.

1737
02:34:42,080 --> 02:34:45,080
First of all, we believe that our plan
is what purchasers, purchasers of the

1738
02:34:45,080 --> 02:34:49,240
property want my team, including the
county as well. However, however, the property

1739
02:34:49,240 --> 02:34:52,920
could be rezoned, but as we all know, that
is a long and at times difficult process.

1740
02:34:52,920 --> 02:34:56,920
And in any and every event, it will
require absolute county approval in every

1741
02:34:56,920 --> 02:34:57,260
instance.

1742
02:35:00,320 --> 02:35:04,200
That concludes my responses to the vice
chairman's questions. I certainly happy to

1743
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:07,510
stand for other questions. I know Mr.
Henderson's here and would like to present as

1744
02:35:07,510 --> 02:35:14,480
well. Thank you so much board
Commissioner Strouberger Yeah, so I want

1745
02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:17,340
to start. Thank you very much. Yes,
we're answering those questions Chad.

1746
02:35:17,340 --> 02:35:23,680
Thank you. May I call you Chad?
Okay. Thank you So it's no secret

1747
02:35:24,710 --> 02:35:29,730
catalyst and and Tri W
was not my first choice.

1748
02:35:29,730 --> 02:35:30,870
Do you remember that Chad?

1749
02:35:32,510 --> 02:35:36,270
But you won me over we've been talking
you've been constantly talking to you've

1750
02:35:36,270 --> 02:35:39,820
talked to the community The first
time you and Ashton came to my office,

1751
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:47,080
I said I was reflecting on my own
experience, you know, in the aerospace

1752
02:35:47,080 --> 02:35:52,680
industry and talking to my clients. And
I think that's where Christy probably got

1753
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:58,630
that reference. I talked to them
constantly because I had to manage their

1754
02:35:58,630 --> 02:36:02,990
expectations. I asked you, talk to Navy
Federal, talk to Theresa Blackwell.

1755
02:36:03,290 --> 02:36:07,330
I gave you names. I told you who you
should be talking to. And you did that.

1756
02:36:09,370 --> 02:36:10,870
Thank you for doing that.

1757
02:36:13,050 --> 02:36:17,470
So, like I said, you won me over.
You've been answering my questions.

1758
02:36:18,430 --> 02:36:23,160
We've got a good relationship, I think. I
don't know if you know this. But during my

1759
02:36:23,160 --> 02:36:26,780
campaign, I had a sign on your property
that I didn't realize that was your

1760
02:36:26,780 --> 02:36:29,800
property. And you had it removed.
And then you had another one removed,

1761
02:36:29,900 --> 02:36:33,580
because I thought it just got blown away
by a tornado. And so I put another one

1762
02:36:33,580 --> 02:36:37,040
there, and then I got a call from your
assistant, and it was removed too.

1763
02:36:37,400 --> 02:36:41,980
So I have every reason not
to want this to happen.

1764
02:36:42,480 --> 02:36:45,920
But I know it's going to be a great thing
for Buelen. I know you're going to do a

1765
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:51,750
good job. And I just can't. fight with you
on every step of this process because it

1766
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:58,290
just you You're coming through. I I believe
you are I think the people need to start

1767
02:36:58,290 --> 02:37:04,350
asking the same kind of questions that I
asked that you answered instead of making

1768
02:37:04,350 --> 02:37:09,850
accusations about the relationship between
the board the county the developers the

1769
02:37:09,850 --> 02:37:16,840
attorneys all of us and start asking
smart questions about why this is going to

1770
02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:20,580
work and how this is going to work.
Ask questions about those roads. You can answer

1771
02:37:20,580 --> 02:37:24,240
that question. So I thought there
were 12 -foot roads. They're not.

1772
02:37:24,380 --> 02:37:27,740
They're 10 and a half feet. So they're a
little smaller. They're not eight feet,

1773
02:37:27,820 --> 02:37:32,260
I think, like some new
urbanism ideas might be.

1774
02:37:32,340 --> 02:37:36,820
They're not eight feet. But I understand.
I get it. I know why you're doing it,

1775
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:37,780
and I appreciate that.

1776
02:37:41,060 --> 02:37:45,500
Navy Federal, they agree with you. They
like what you're going to do. I don't know

1777
02:37:45,500 --> 02:37:51,320
if everybody knows this, but We get other
people that contact us also, not just the

1778
02:37:51,320 --> 02:37:54,840
people that come to this meeting.
Lots of people contact us.

1779
02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:58,700
Lots of people who aren't coming to these
meetings tell us we like what they're

1780
02:37:58,700 --> 02:38:03,180
doing. Please execute this. And
that's what we're trying to do.

1781
02:38:03,720 --> 02:38:08,460
So don't think that just because you
may not be heard, that we're not hearing

1782
02:38:08,460 --> 02:38:12,040
everybody and we're not listening to every,
because there's lots of voices out there

1783
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:18,820
for all of us to hear, okay? Now I've
embraced Try W catalysts because I wanted

1784
02:38:18,820 --> 02:38:23,920
to help shape this I wanted to I wanted
the relationship that I knew that I could

1785
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:30,430
get answers to my questions for and I've
gotten them I Didn't have the votes here

1786
02:38:30,430 --> 02:38:36,190
But so I found another way to try to help
manage this and if you don't understand

1787
02:38:36,190 --> 02:38:39,470
that Teresa where you add Teresa You said
I threw you under the bus you think I'm

1788
02:38:39,470 --> 02:38:44,960
not looking at social media. I am you
thought you were driving the bus Teresa You

1789
02:38:44,960 --> 02:38:49,680
have got more private meetings with Chad
than anyone else more than I have had so I

1790
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:54,960
you're not recognized Teresa, so I don't
understand why you're you're taking this so

1791
02:38:54,960 --> 02:39:01,140
personal like I don't know if it's Narcissism
or what it is you've been trying to

1792
02:39:01,140 --> 02:39:04,560
take credit for everything when this is
all done You can take all the credit you

1793
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:06,360
want when this is over. Okay?

1794
02:39:08,570 --> 02:39:12,450
I just want to get this I want to get this
done, but I'm not trying to get this done

1795
02:39:12,450 --> 02:39:17,660
at all cost I'm trying to get this
done just the way, look at the plan.

1796
02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:22,880
Look at how everything, there's more parks
in every area in this plan than there was

1797
02:39:22,880 --> 02:39:27,240
in the original plan. There's more
green space, there's more of everything.

1798
02:39:28,520 --> 02:39:32,500
There's the potential for, there's less
residential than there would have been in

1799
02:39:32,500 --> 02:39:38,550
the old plan. So I think understanding
what's happening and what's gonna happen is

1800
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:44,200
really important to understanding
that this is good for Bula.

1801
02:39:44,500 --> 02:39:46,760
This is going to be great
for Bula. Thank you.

1802
02:39:48,730 --> 02:39:53,490
Chad, anything you want to say? Yeah, just
real quickly. I will be remiss to just,

1803
02:39:53,590 --> 02:39:58,390
if not real quickly before I go into my
comments, just to thank this board and the

1804
02:39:58,390 --> 02:40:03,070
leadership all for the response and recovery
during the storm and just listening to

1805
02:40:03,070 --> 02:40:06,770
the stories. It's been quite impressive.
So thank you so much for your leadership

1806
02:40:06,770 --> 02:40:08,550
and guidance through that.

1807
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:14,380
just a few comments we've been really
really really consistent in our messaging from

1808
02:40:14,380 --> 02:40:21,040
from day one. We've identified what
we believe to be three powerful

1809
02:40:21,040 --> 02:40:25,840
stakeholder groups with the
original stakeholder group and Mr.

1810
02:40:26,060 --> 02:40:30,670
Jim Cronley starting you know well over
30 years ago. and that was of job creation

1811
02:40:30,670 --> 02:40:36,410
and of economic development. I sat down with
Mr. Cromley about a month ago and just

1812
02:40:36,410 --> 02:40:43,310
kind of recasting the effort that it took
to get the county engaged and working with

1813
02:40:43,310 --> 02:40:46,830
the U.S. Navy to get
control of the property.

1814
02:40:47,090 --> 02:40:53,360
At the time, the vision was to be a single
use, a single use light industrial park

1815
02:40:53,360 --> 02:41:00,190
focused on job creation and development.
From there, Navy Federal engaged

1816
02:41:00,190 --> 02:41:05,630
EPZ and emerged another powerful stakeholder
group in the Beulah community that made

1817
02:41:05,630 --> 02:41:11,370
it known that they wanted a walkable
town center and a beating heart.

1818
02:41:12,840 --> 02:41:16,160
They went through charrettes, and
those charrettes created vision,

1819
02:41:17,500 --> 02:41:23,940
and that created a plan. At the time,
there was no developer or other investor that

1820
02:41:23,940 --> 02:41:29,820
was really underwriting the economic
feasibility and viability of such plan,

1821
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:32,500
which is why it set stagnant.

1822
02:41:34,670 --> 02:41:39,690
We had other single uses that were
proposed in the form of large neighborhoods and

1823
02:41:39,690 --> 02:41:42,270
majority residential developers.

1824
02:41:43,980 --> 02:41:50,500
So... you know, we went through this
process with the DPZ plan in mind,

1825
02:41:50,500 --> 02:41:54,440
but being very upfront that it have to
be amended and changed to have economic

1826
02:41:54,440 --> 02:41:59,180
viability and feasibility. And through
that, the third stakeholder emerged and

1827
02:41:59,180 --> 02:42:03,650
that's the county themselves as a
fiduciary, not just for one district,

1828
02:42:03,810 --> 02:42:08,270
but for all districts. We made an
investment of roughly $17 million.

1829
02:42:08,670 --> 02:42:12,870
We sold 100 acres for 4 million,
leaving a basis of 13 million.

1830
02:42:13,730 --> 02:42:18,630
We're presenting a plan where we are over
doubling that by selling a portion of the

1831
02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:25,410
property with leaving what we believe are
the largest district focused on economic

1832
02:42:25,410 --> 02:42:31,210
development and job creation in a way that
is all fluid across distinct districts

1833
02:42:31,210 --> 02:42:38,170
that are all intentional about creating
a vibrant mixed use development

1834
02:42:38,170 --> 02:42:43,030
of high quality. So I just wanted to be
you know, I know I sound like a broken

1835
02:42:43,030 --> 02:42:46,950
record But but the project approach has
always been about three groups to serve each

1836
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:52,950
group has a little bit of a different Need
a little bit of different goal But a very

1837
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:58,790
weak plan a weak plan would pick one of
those groups and ask the other two to settle

1838
02:42:58,790 --> 02:43:05,310
a strong plan Finds a way to help all
of those and be accretive to one another

1839
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:10,010
This plan does not split the difference
between these three groups. It finds a

1840
02:43:10,010 --> 02:43:13,510
design where helping one group
also helps the other two.

1841
02:43:16,220 --> 02:43:22,180
Strongly, strongly, please appreciate all
the effort and the resources and the time

1842
02:43:22,180 --> 02:43:28,160
and the genuineness and passion that's
gone behind our team of trying to embrace

1843
02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:34,480
those three distinct stakeholder
initiatives and creating a plan where

1844
02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:36,380
we all win.

1845
02:44:05,540 --> 02:44:09,240
Thank you. This ain't a perfect plan.

1846
02:44:09,360 --> 02:44:14,500
Nothing is but I sit here and watch that
whole pew with all the green shirts and

1847
02:44:14,500 --> 02:44:18,720
they started to fall off and Chad you did
do what you said you're gonna do you went

1848
02:44:18,720 --> 02:44:23,140
out I've talked to multiple people Navy
Federal Credit Union I Didn't like us

1849
02:44:23,140 --> 02:44:26,500
keeping the hundred and seventy -one
acres, but sometimes you gotta you gotta

1850
02:44:26,500 --> 02:44:30,860
accommodate The votes are here. I believe
in you guys are gonna do the right thing.

1851
02:44:31,300 --> 02:44:36,700
I'm gonna support it Hopefully your words
your bond and I think it is but I do think

1852
02:44:36,700 --> 02:44:40,660
for the folks that are Protesting
this a lot of the folks that are here.

1853
02:44:40,660 --> 02:44:43,800
I respect what you're saying. You weren't
here four years ago three years ago in a

1854
02:44:43,800 --> 02:44:47,540
green shirt There's only there's no one actually
in the room today in a green shirt.

1855
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:53,900
There's not one person here. Okay. Well John
you're the only one Okay, but but that

1856
02:44:53,900 --> 02:44:58,040
ought to tell you that we're moving in the
right direction the camels You've gained

1857
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:01,990
their support you've gained other
folks support There's no perfect plan,

1858
02:45:01,990 --> 02:45:06,590
but I believe these folks are trying their
best to make this a community project and

1859
02:45:06,590 --> 02:45:13,230
so I support what you're doing and hope
you do what's right Thank you move the item

1860
02:45:14,100 --> 02:45:20,960
Yes, move the item please second all
in favor Commissioner make a five

1861
02:45:20,960 --> 02:45:26,400
-o. Thank you You do realize just
as a for situational awareness.

1862
02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:32,230
This is the first of two public hearings.
You will be seeing this very item again on

1863
02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:37,310
your November 5th agenda along with a
separate quasi judicial rezoning matter.

1864
02:45:38,430 --> 02:45:42,150
So we'll deal with those procedural
issues on November the 5th.

1865
02:45:42,230 --> 02:45:46,010
Yes ma 'am. Thank you. All right. And
then we still have the consent agenda.

1866
02:45:47,450 --> 02:45:49,910
For November the 5th consent agenda.

1867
02:45:52,550 --> 02:45:57,610
All in favor. 5 -0. Thank you. And that
brings us to the county administrators

1868
02:45:57,610 --> 02:46:01,590
report. Wes. Thank you Madam Chair. There
are 10 items on the technical public

1869
02:46:01,590 --> 02:46:04,860
service consent agenda. There are
no changes there are no speakers.

1870
02:46:08,800 --> 02:46:12,580
All in favor. K40 with
Commissioner May off the dais.

1871
02:46:13,850 --> 02:46:17,630
Vice. Madam Chair there are 50 items
on the budget finance consent agenda there are

1872
02:46:17,630 --> 02:46:23,010
no changes. Please hold
car 2 -2 for speakers.

1873
02:46:23,550 --> 02:46:30,010
2 -12 for speakers. 2 -31 for
speakers and 2 -33 for speakers.

1874
02:46:30,610 --> 02:46:31,610
Move the balance.

1875
02:46:33,740 --> 02:46:38,630
All in favor. K40 with Commissioner May
off the dais. The first item we have a

1876
02:46:38,630 --> 02:46:43,870
speaker for is car 2 -2. Our first speaker
is Malpino and then after Mel will be

1877
02:46:43,870 --> 02:46:44,310
Kevin Wade.

1878
02:46:46,810 --> 02:46:51,710
Thank you Chairwoman Hoffberger.
Yellow shirt, so shirts got brought up.

1879
02:46:52,170 --> 02:46:56,710
Commissioner Kohler, the green shirts on
the L.O.F.A. were relatively, I mean I

1880
02:46:56,710 --> 02:47:00,910
don't want to say recent, but don't think
that the whole time people have been

1881
02:47:00,910 --> 02:47:05,290
advocating for L.O.F.A. they've been coming down
here in big groups of green shirts.

1882
02:47:05,980 --> 02:47:09,880
They switched to that
tactic because ridiculously,

1883
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:18,290
the tradition in Escambia County is
pick a color, get t -shirts, get a group

1884
02:47:18,290 --> 02:47:23,260
down. Do you think we want to do it? Do
you think I want to be down here in a damn

1885
02:47:23,260 --> 02:47:27,250
yellow shirt after a
hurricane? But here we are.

1886
02:47:27,430 --> 02:47:31,970
We've got a yellow shirt in the room to
represent because Commissioner Stroberger

1887
02:47:31,970 --> 02:47:37,530
and I don't say that your creation,
this was not your creation, this is a

1888
02:47:37,530 --> 02:47:44,130
Frankensteinian boondoggle of epic under
-hillion proportions that I have been

1889
02:47:44,130 --> 02:47:49,710
advocating against for years. The last time
I advocated for this was in January when

1890
02:47:49,710 --> 02:47:53,430
you all voted it through. So is
this related to the agenda item?

1891
02:47:54,340 --> 02:48:00,140
The inlet management plan? Yeah, because
that's why I'm here is because they keep

1892
02:48:00,140 --> 02:48:06,700
saying that they're not going to pay for
nourishment for private property owners

1893
02:48:06,700 --> 02:48:10,660
or for dune restoration
and yet it keeps happening.

1894
02:48:11,220 --> 02:48:17,060
Okay, so let me flip it flip the script.
I don't care if you want to spend 90k of

1895
02:48:17,060 --> 02:48:21,680
the general fund dumping
sand onto a federal beach.

1896
02:48:22,370 --> 02:48:27,010
It's not wrecking anything. It's not denuding
a bunch of trees. It's not flooding a

1897
02:48:27,010 --> 02:48:31,630
bunch of people out. It's not the
worst of what Escambia County does.

1898
02:48:32,090 --> 02:48:37,390
So go build a beach. That's great. But I
want people to understand the conception

1899
02:48:37,390 --> 02:48:43,910
and in the backup of this thing, the whole
reason Doug went for this was to get the

1900
02:48:43,910 --> 02:48:50,170
Western drift so that it goes ahead
and nourishes the private property

1901
02:48:50,170 --> 02:48:55,680
around beach. Access one and we
have a stellar natural resources.

1902
02:48:55,680 --> 02:48:59,540
We've got the best dang natural resource
department These guys can can't make

1903
02:48:59,540 --> 02:49:03,080
anything happen. So how did they convince?

1904
02:49:04,080 --> 02:49:10,220
The environmental people to let them do
this We gave the military a bunch of money

1905
02:49:10,450 --> 02:49:15,570
So we've got this this thing now with the
Army Corps and the Navy and the county and

1906
02:49:15,570 --> 02:49:19,910
now suddenly the taxpayers are on the hook
for all this money and this is not just

1907
02:49:19,910 --> 02:49:26,290
for a study on what's happened the backup
makes it very clear that they are supposed

1908
02:49:26,290 --> 02:49:33,210
to be projecting local budget for
continual sediment renourishment to throw

1909
02:49:33,210 --> 02:49:39,560
this stuff down on Johnson Beach and then
Watch it drift right over to those private

1910
02:49:39,560 --> 02:49:43,120
property owners around Beach Access 1.

1911
02:49:43,540 --> 02:49:48,420
That was the whole point of this from the
very beginning and sadly it just keeps

1912
02:49:48,420 --> 02:49:52,160
getting voted through so Commissioner
Strowburger, I'm just here to put that on

1913
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:59,030
public record. Thank you. Kevin Wade and
after Kevin Wade after Kevin Wade is Kristy

1914
02:49:59,030 --> 02:49:59,350
Rosen.

1915
02:50:05,270 --> 02:50:12,030
You sat there and campaigned against
discretionary spending and you're going to

1916
02:50:12,030 --> 02:50:18,830
drag again a project that the rest of the
commissioners said, we ain't gonna put

1917
02:50:18,830 --> 02:50:24,710
money into this thing. Doug, if you wanna
put your discretionary money into a study

1918
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:27,580
on this Inlet Management

1919
02:50:28,060 --> 02:50:37,780
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1920
02:50:37,780 --> 02:50:40,580
propropropropro propropro propro propro
propro propro propro propro propro propro

1921
02:50:40,580 --> 02:50:44,550
propro pro that will migrate,
sand migrates like ducks.

1922
02:50:45,570 --> 02:50:51,810
No, no, this is a study
again, just a study

1923
02:50:51,810 --> 02:50:58,190
to try to go ahead and say, oh, we won't
break Johnson Beach, because all along

1924
02:50:58,190 --> 02:51:04,990
I heard about this idea 30 plus years
ago when I came to Escambia County of

1925
02:51:04,990 --> 02:51:09,910
we need to go ahead and grab
some sand, make the path deeper.

1926
02:51:10,200 --> 02:51:10,640
Now,

1927
02:51:12,510 --> 02:51:19,210
the exponential dollar waste to think
that you're a physical, conservative,

1928
02:51:21,770 --> 02:51:24,390
fiscal, sorry, wouldn't
think of you as physical.

1929
02:51:27,030 --> 02:51:33,830
Basically, you're looking at $6
to $15 per cubic foot to dredge a

1930
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:39,720
channel to commercial depths.
The Doris, the greatest class

1931
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:46,620
of American, Aircraft carrier drafts 39

1932
02:51:46,620 --> 02:51:52,230
feet max draft. 60 foot
is our commercial depth.

1933
02:51:52,770 --> 02:51:59,610
We maintain that already. Now,
you're looking at not only a 300

1934
02:51:59,610 --> 02:52:06,320
to 500 percent increase in dredging a

1935
02:52:06,320 --> 02:52:08,140
single cubic yard.

1936
02:52:10,020 --> 02:52:15,060
You exponentially increase the
amount of dredging that must be done.

1937
02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:20,600
to go to a 90 foot depth. Do
we need boomers coming in here?

1938
02:52:21,260 --> 02:52:21,440
Really?

1939
02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:29,580
What, in what way does Escambia County
help facilitate a vessel like a boomer?

1940
02:52:30,160 --> 02:52:37,100
Now, that price that I give you,
you're looking at $100 to 300 per cubic

1941
02:52:37,100 --> 02:52:43,610
yard on up to 500 to 1200 per cubic

1942
02:52:43,610 --> 02:52:49,290
yard. to be able to do the
initial, the absolute initial

1943
02:52:49,320 --> 02:52:55,800
building of creating that
military grade channel.

1944
02:52:57,570 --> 02:53:02,710
You aren't fiscal conservative.
This is ridiculous amounts of money.

1945
02:53:03,640 --> 02:53:07,940
And you're trying to cut employees down?

1946
02:53:08,220 --> 02:53:12,180
Thank you, Kevin. Kristie Rosen, you're
next. And Kristie will be our last speaker

1947
02:53:12,180 --> 02:53:12,780
on this item.

1948
02:53:18,740 --> 02:53:22,850
Good morning again. was it planning on speaking
on this one of our members that if

1949
02:53:22,850 --> 02:53:26,830
not us reached out to me this morning
and is concerned on this issue.

1950
02:53:27,730 --> 02:53:31,610
I want to say that they said that it's
unfair to ask Escamio County taxpayers to

1951
02:53:31,610 --> 02:53:37,330
shoulder the cost of beach survey and
restoration on the area that's going to

1952
02:53:37,330 --> 02:53:40,850
benefit somewhere that does not
have a codified customary usage.

1953
02:53:41,490 --> 02:53:45,190
It is one thing to care for our
public beaches, there's another to do so for beaches

1954
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:49,410
that are not guaranteeing
access to the public. Thank you.

1955
02:53:51,260 --> 02:53:56,090
Thank you that concludes our
speakers for this item chip.

1956
02:53:56,130 --> 02:53:58,210
Do you want to comment on
this before I move the item?

1957
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:12,900
Thank you commissioner. Good morning. I
Just googled to see when pincetle pass was

1958
02:54:12,900 --> 02:54:19,860
first dredged. It was in 1883 and it's
dredged obviously for for the Navy

1959
02:54:19,860 --> 02:54:26,180
and Commissioner I know you know the
economic impact that the Navy has

1960
02:54:26,180 --> 02:54:33,000
on our community So that's what this
project is about the Inlet Management Plan It's

1961
02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:36,820
to benefit the Navy and also
go file this national seashore

1962
02:54:40,530 --> 02:54:42,070
a motion move the item

1963
02:54:43,480 --> 02:54:48,210
Do we have a second all in favor
for a with Commissioner May absent?

1964
02:54:48,310 --> 02:54:52,350
Thank you Our next item
is item 2 or excuse.

1965
02:54:52,510 --> 02:54:58,790
Yes item 2 -12 And our first speaker is
Mel Pino and after Mel will be Kevin Wade.

1966
02:55:05,350 --> 02:55:10,370
Beach Haven Northeast phase two
which reminds me of Keith Bow.

1967
02:55:11,470 --> 02:55:16,390
And I would like to think that Keith is
feeling well enough that he's watching the

1968
02:55:16,390 --> 02:55:20,250
meeting right now. Texted
with him a little bit.

1969
02:55:21,170 --> 02:55:26,670
And this item reminds me of course because
he lives not far from this and Keith and

1970
02:55:26,670 --> 02:55:33,170
I have spent Many many hours going round
and around about the Beach Haven drainage

1971
02:55:33,170 --> 02:55:40,050
project And I want to thank the Commission
for its support of this project over the

1972
02:55:40,050 --> 02:55:44,950
years and and always in support of whatever
is needed for it It is a really crucial

1973
02:55:44,950 --> 02:55:51,070
drainage project. I always just want to
remind too that it was on this project

1974
02:55:51,070 --> 02:55:54,940
that the former County administrator

1975
02:55:56,270 --> 02:56:02,710
had a lot of questions about procurements
in the aftermath of a hurricane

1976
02:56:02,710 --> 02:56:08,280
because there was a lot of funky stuff
going on with procurements and this is the

1977
02:56:08,280 --> 02:56:12,840
one that I finally was able to demonstrate
that it wasn't just questionable,

1978
02:56:13,160 --> 02:56:19,820
there was illegal, illegal
according to state rules on

1979
02:56:19,820 --> 02:56:24,510
procurement which is why it
had to be sent out to bid.

1980
02:56:24,820 --> 02:56:30,360
So all of the propaganda coming from Doug's
team at that time was that I was just

1981
02:56:30,360 --> 02:56:35,680
against him and it had to go back out and
then of course I blew the project up and

1982
02:56:35,680 --> 02:56:41,520
made it more expensive. No, it went back
out for procurement because it was illegal

1983
02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:47,540
because the former administrator did not
follow state practices on procurement and

1984
02:56:47,540 --> 02:56:53,540
did not do enough steps to
accept a one bid contract.

1985
02:56:54,200 --> 02:56:58,920
So I want to get that on record and there
are already some people that are unhappy

1986
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:03,120
with how some of the
procurements are going Mr.

1987
02:57:03,440 --> 02:57:07,060
Marino, I know you remember all of that and
you were actually part of a good part of

1988
02:57:07,060 --> 02:57:11,220
the fix Unfortunately, it didn't get
fixed very well, right because when

1989
02:57:11,220 --> 02:57:16,440
Commissioner Barry asked that that procurement get
put back out She split it up in

1990
02:57:16,440 --> 02:57:22,860
two and then she did the same damn thing
with it and structured the two parts

1991
02:57:22,860 --> 02:57:29,060
so that anyone who bid on one
part had been insured and bonded

1992
02:57:29,060 --> 02:57:35,580
enough for both of them, effectively
just putting it out as one bid again.

1993
02:57:36,600 --> 02:57:41,760
So please keep our procurements clean.
Yeah, you've worked really hard on

1994
02:57:41,760 --> 02:57:46,220
procurements to fix procurement here Wes.

1995
02:57:46,800 --> 02:57:51,720
It's one of the best things you've done as
administrator. So don't fall prey to the

1996
02:57:51,720 --> 02:57:56,720
easy ways of doing stuff post -hurricane
because you're gonna have a lot of eyes.

1997
02:57:57,220 --> 02:58:02,560
Keep it clean, keep it best practices, move
things along well like we know you know

1998
02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:06,920
how to do. It's one benefit of having the
past head of the roads department being

1999
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:07,460
your admin.

2000
02:58:09,280 --> 02:58:13,900
Thank you Kevin wager next and Kevin Wade
will be our last speaker on this item

2001
02:58:18,580 --> 02:58:25,580
Kevin Wade four one three southeast
boblets again The phase one of this I was

2002
02:58:25,580 --> 02:58:32,510
so proud of the rest of the board when
Doug under Hill said I'm not gonna put my

2003
02:58:32,510 --> 02:58:39,260
discretionary money into this and the
rest of the board said Damn, you are and

2004
02:58:39,260 --> 02:58:43,640
we're gonna hold your head down on the desk.
Well, we go ahead and do that for you

2005
02:58:45,120 --> 02:58:49,900
And I am so proud of the people
on the board at that time.

2006
02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:52,300
And I want to keep being proud.

2007
02:58:56,120 --> 02:58:56,880
Beach Haven is needed.

2008
02:58:58,200 --> 02:59:04,150
Over and over again, I'm
watching sewer come and I

2009
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:09,310
have to walk past lift
stations now in a park.

2010
02:59:11,080 --> 02:59:17,450
In a park, it gives point a wonderful
vista where There were probably

2011
02:59:17,450 --> 02:59:23,550
300 people yesterday gathered around
watching the Blue Angels surrounding

2012
02:59:24,990 --> 02:59:25,970
a lift station.

2013
02:59:28,520 --> 02:59:32,500
And it didn't smell very
pretty. And you know,

2014
02:59:33,810 --> 02:59:35,750
I embraced the Redneck Riviera.

2015
02:59:37,350 --> 02:59:42,550
I love the fish here.
I like the people here.

2016
02:59:42,670 --> 02:59:49,100
I like the culture. And I want
to see it doing good to itself.

2017
02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:56,360
Keith, you know, we walked
your streets with you,

2018
02:59:57,700 --> 03:00:04,513
looking at your concerns. And I'm
hoping that this actually turns out

2019
03:00:04,513 --> 03:00:09,973
right. It's more amendment after
more amendment after more amendment.

2020
03:00:10,173 --> 03:00:16,373
That's that's the way it goes.
But please make it right.

2021
03:00:19,273 --> 03:00:23,073
Thank you. Thank you Madam
Chair. Thank chips. Thanks.

2022
03:00:23,313 --> 03:00:27,133
This is a great project and I'm more
than welcome to move item two dash 12.

2023
03:00:27,813 --> 03:00:33,703
All in favor. For with Commissioner May
absent. Thank you. Next item is item number

2024
03:00:33,703 --> 03:00:38,423
31 We do have three speakers on this Matt
girden. You're our first speaker and after

2025
03:00:38,423 --> 03:00:41,643
Matt will be Brittany Parker Costello Good

2026
03:00:46,703 --> 03:00:50,963
morning, mr. Chairman and commissioners.
My name is Matt girden. I am a senior vice

2027
03:00:50,963 --> 03:00:55,423
president for Ash brit With me today. I
also have our CEO Brady Perkins will be up

2028
03:00:55,423 --> 03:01:00,403
here next Ash brit is at a contract with
the county for 22 years in disaster debris

2029
03:01:00,403 --> 03:01:05,193
removal. We specialize in that Over the
last 22 years, I've personally been here for

2030
03:01:05,193 --> 03:01:07,993
Hurricane Ivan. I've been here for
Hurricane Dennis. I've been here for Hurricane

2031
03:01:07,993 --> 03:01:13,453
Sally some of the most toughest times this
communities had That being said I want to

2032
03:01:13,453 --> 03:01:17,393
recognize some of the team the procurement
and solid waste team Did a great job in

2033
03:01:17,393 --> 03:01:21,473
putting contracts together and plans we
train in blue skies every year for these

2034
03:01:21,473 --> 03:01:26,793
types of situations work with them daily
Last Friday, Escambia County issued us a

2035
03:01:26,793 --> 03:01:32,333
notice to proceed to begin operations at
that time we began mobilizing just like we

2036
03:01:32,333 --> 03:01:36,173
had for the last three storms. We were
ready to pick up debris and get this

2037
03:01:36,173 --> 03:01:37,173
operation over with.

2038
03:01:38,493 --> 03:01:41,853
During Sally, in the first four days,
we hauled over 120,000 cubic yards,

2039
03:01:41,973 --> 03:01:45,293
so our record speaks for itself. The goal
is to get the debris cleaned up and get

2040
03:01:45,293 --> 03:01:48,933
the community back to where it was.
However, on Saturday, we were told that our

2041
03:01:48,933 --> 03:01:54,433
notice of proceed was rescinded and
took it back. It didn't truly know why.

2042
03:01:55,433 --> 03:01:56,333
Then our truck sat idle.

2043
03:01:57,803 --> 03:02:01,103
Your debris operations didn't take off until
Tuesday. We were ready to go on Sunday.

2044
03:02:03,333 --> 03:02:03,733
One of the things

2045
03:02:05,123 --> 03:02:08,303
One of the things that I get to with
the fact that they resented a notice to proceed

2046
03:02:08,303 --> 03:02:11,863
after what we did in Hurricane Sally and
we divided the county into three different

2047
03:02:11,863 --> 03:02:15,623
zones. We had the count after Hurricane
Sally was 3.7 million yards. We had it

2048
03:02:15,623 --> 03:02:19,163
cleaned up in less than two months.
It was a fast operation. It was great.

2049
03:02:20,713 --> 03:02:25,223
Excuse me. The other two companies after
we're sending the other two companies here

2050
03:02:25,223 --> 03:02:29,493
are Rhodes Inc. and Panhandle.
Panhandle has a contract in place.

2051
03:02:30,413 --> 03:02:33,783
We're going to divide the county in two.
And then all of a sudden, Rhodes Inc.

2052
03:02:34,083 --> 03:02:37,723
jumps in because they were bought by C.W.
Roberts, not even a local company bought

2053
03:02:37,723 --> 03:02:38,643
from somebody out of Alabama.

2054
03:02:39,953 --> 03:02:42,253
The reason why I say that is because the
reason why we were told that our contract

2055
03:02:42,253 --> 03:02:46,133
was rescinded is because they wanted to
work with locals. We are a Florida -based

2056
03:02:46,133 --> 03:02:50,113
company, 20 years being here. We've
supported this community for 22 years.

2057
03:02:50,733 --> 03:02:52,213
We want to continue
supporting this community.

2058
03:02:53,633 --> 03:02:57,753
And so the reason why I'm up here today
to talk about this agenda item is the fact

2059
03:02:57,753 --> 03:03:02,103
that this contract that you are assigning
today, the residents had to wait.

2060
03:03:02,533 --> 03:03:05,953
There was no contract for Rhodes Inc.
They had to assign it to CW Roberts,

2061
03:03:06,113 --> 03:03:08,793
which means you waited two, three more
days until they finally got started,

2062
03:03:08,833 --> 03:03:13,393
which is why you're rushing to do it
today. So that being said, the Brie operations,

2063
03:03:13,733 --> 03:03:17,373
it's specialty work. It's not just moving
sticks. There's a lot that goes into a

2064
03:03:17,373 --> 03:03:21,593
logistics FEMA reimbursement. And we
want to reiterate today that the county,

2065
03:03:21,813 --> 03:03:24,893
we're here to support you. We've done it
in the past. We want to continue supporting

2066
03:03:24,893 --> 03:03:25,313
you.

2067
03:03:26,693 --> 03:03:30,213
What doesn't make any sense to us is the
fact during hurricane Sally was divided

2068
03:03:30,213 --> 03:03:35,413
perfectly with three contractors and now
they want to rescind it and hold out as

2069
03:03:35,483 --> 03:03:38,963
Many trucks that we could bring in to
clean up the community. It doesn't and the

2070
03:03:38,963 --> 03:03:42,603
estimates are three million yards
Hurricane Sally was only 3.7.

2071
03:03:42,843 --> 03:03:46,823
So it makes perfect sense to bring more
resources so we do not understand why the

2072
03:03:46,823 --> 03:03:51,463
Commission refuses to allow us to continue
support in the community and We thank you

2073
03:03:51,463 --> 03:03:54,603
for your time and the opportunity to serve.
Thank you Matt. What's do you want to

2074
03:03:54,603 --> 03:03:55,203
address that?

2075
03:03:57,193 --> 03:04:03,373
I'm madam chair. I would say that you know
our initial debris estimate was as I was

2076
03:04:03,373 --> 03:04:09,493
informed a third of what Sally was we didn't
figure we had it proposed to go with 3

2077
03:04:09,493 --> 03:04:15,533
contractors we had some contractors who
are that we work with on a regular basis

2078
03:04:15,533 --> 03:04:20,093
people that are used to dealing with us
people were used to dealing with them they

2079
03:04:20,093 --> 03:04:24,393
know our staff our staff knows them
Thompson engineering is very familiar with the

2080
03:04:24,393 --> 03:04:29,253
process. Our contractors are very familiar
with the FEMA process. And so we decided

2081
03:04:29,253 --> 03:04:31,833
to move in that direction. We
were actually picking up debris Monday afternoon,

2082
03:04:31,833 --> 03:04:35,453
which is the fastest we've ever
mobilized to get to debris period.

2083
03:04:36,313 --> 03:04:41,533
And we're doing a great job right
now. We have 65 units in the county.

2084
03:04:41,793 --> 03:04:47,633
Now we'll have over 100 shortly. We have
20, 15 to 20 bucket trucks en route,

2085
03:04:47,713 --> 03:04:52,623
I mean, on the streets. all of our road
department for the works crews or all of our

2086
03:04:52,623 --> 03:04:57,503
grapple trucks are placarded. They're approved by
FEMA. We have our DMS site set up

2087
03:04:57,503 --> 03:05:01,063
and we're we're moving to break. We're
moving it efficiently. We're moving it

2088
03:05:01,063 --> 03:05:07,203
quickly. But you know the initial estimate
was a third of what Sally was that that

2089
03:05:07,203 --> 03:05:11,643
had a lot to play into our my decision
to go with two instead of three.

2090
03:05:11,643 --> 03:05:15,523
Okay. And you said in short shortly
we'll have a hundred on the road.

2091
03:05:15,683 --> 03:05:21,173
What what does shortly mean Friday Madam chair.
So I have a question on that because

2092
03:05:21,173 --> 03:05:25,673
that's the first I heard that was so you
agree in that it is 3 million yards now or

2093
03:05:25,673 --> 03:05:29,473
1.3, which you know, I'm not agreeing
that it's 3 million yards now. We've been

2094
03:05:29,473 --> 03:05:33,233
surveying the roads for last week. It's
definitely over 2 million yards may push to

2095
03:05:33,233 --> 03:05:36,373
3. Well, there's a substantial difference
from what you're saying that our county

2096
03:05:36,373 --> 03:05:41,693
administrator. We my my estimate comes
from Thompson Thompson, our consultant.

2097
03:05:43,353 --> 03:05:47,313
Okay. All right. Well, I'd like to know
what the actual number is but staffs here.

2098
03:05:47,353 --> 03:05:47,873
I guess they could

2099
03:05:49,453 --> 03:05:53,373
Okay, we'll call them up next. Thank you
so much that we appreciate it Brittany your

2100
03:05:53,373 --> 03:05:57,653
next and then after Brittany is now I got
a quick question for Matt Matt when did

2101
03:05:57,653 --> 03:06:01,993
you guys arrive here and start staging
your equipment? I was here Saturday morning

2102
03:06:01,993 --> 03:06:05,713
surveying the debris sites We had a whole
team of people here. Everything was coming

2103
03:06:05,713 --> 03:06:09,393
in We were opening up the PCS dump site We
were there on the ground getting ready to

2104
03:06:09,393 --> 03:06:12,793
move equipment into that site getting the
key and then we were resented and you were

2105
03:06:12,793 --> 03:06:17,133
ready to start Clearing on Monday. I had
trucks literally four hours out that we

2106
03:06:17,133 --> 03:06:18,773
turned around. Okay Thank you, Matt.

2107
03:06:23,433 --> 03:06:27,473
Madam Chairwoman and commissioners, County
Administrator, thank you. My name is

2108
03:06:27,473 --> 03:06:30,633
Brittany Perkins Castillo. I am the
Chief Executive Officer of Ashbury,

2109
03:06:30,773 --> 03:06:34,673
a position I've held for over 10 years
and an owner of the company. I think Matt

2110
03:06:34,673 --> 03:06:40,033
explained clearly why we're here today. And
I just want to reiterate that staff did

2111
03:06:40,033 --> 03:06:43,393
a great job. Escambia County, we work
all over the state, all over the country,

2112
03:06:43,393 --> 03:06:48,233
and I actually commend tremendously the
staff. You had a competitive procurement in

2113
03:06:48,233 --> 03:06:51,493
place. You had a blue sky
plan in place that has been

2114
03:06:53,193 --> 03:06:57,053
operationalized many times over the
years and staff put that plan in place.

2115
03:06:57,713 --> 03:07:01,813
And I did speak to the county
administrator on Sunday, Saturday. One phone call,

2116
03:07:01,893 --> 03:07:05,433
it's the only one we've had. And I asked
him, are you directing staff to change the

2117
03:07:05,433 --> 03:07:07,193
plan? He communicated yes.

2118
03:07:08,493 --> 03:07:12,793
And, you know, it's concerning
to me that a contractor...

2119
03:07:12,433 --> 03:07:16,753
that doesn't have an active contract was
stood down with a company that has been

2120
03:07:16,753 --> 03:07:21,833
here with resources for the county for
over 22 years. And I respect what was just

2121
03:07:21,833 --> 03:07:25,653
said that other companies have a
great relationship with staff. But my understanding

2122
03:07:25,653 --> 03:07:31,173
is that we do too. And we would have had
over 2,500 truckloads of debris already

2123
03:07:31,173 --> 03:07:35,813
moved, notwithstanding being stood down.
We did submit our full operations and

2124
03:07:35,813 --> 03:07:40,753
safety plan to the county. So that's in
the public record. And All we're saying is

2125
03:07:40,753 --> 03:07:45,013
we're here. We still got trucks here.
We're proud to support the community and we'd

2126
03:07:45,013 --> 03:07:48,393
be happy to get those trucks rolling and
certified in today and get this county

2127
03:07:48,393 --> 03:07:52,073
cleaned up in 60 days to support
the citizens and the full recovery.

2128
03:07:52,533 --> 03:07:56,813
And if you have questions, I'm here for them.
Thank you. And I know this is a weird

2129
03:07:56,813 --> 03:08:00,173
spot because also on the agenda we hit
the blackout in the cone of silence and

2130
03:08:00,173 --> 03:08:04,153
Allison has told me many times stay out
of procurement, stay out of that process.

2131
03:08:04,533 --> 03:08:08,743
So I do respect that. But District 4 is
a wreck. I mean one and out of every five

2132
03:08:08,743 --> 03:08:12,323
trees and you still is down so I feel
like we can take all the help we can get I

2133
03:08:12,323 --> 03:08:16,083
don't know what that looks
like but The beach is bad.

2134
03:08:16,083 --> 03:08:19,763
I have people freaking out about the weather
that's coming in now 30 mile an hour

2135
03:08:19,763 --> 03:08:25,123
winds this weekend I mean we've got to get
it cleaned up So I don't I I'm gonna stay

2136
03:08:25,123 --> 03:08:31,113
out of how we do that, but we've got
to get everything off the roads Madam chair Wes

2137
03:08:31,113 --> 03:08:35,013
I had another question and I know we had
our meeting yesterday, but I last night I

2138
03:08:35,013 --> 03:08:38,873
was I've been I've had at least 10 calls
on this And I don't get in the procurement

2139
03:08:38,873 --> 03:08:43,413
process. I defer them all to you, you know
that. Because I'm not interested in going

2140
03:08:43,413 --> 03:08:49,243
to jail. But how in the world are they
putting out, and I need to know if this is

2141
03:08:49,243 --> 03:08:54,343
true, because the cubic card thing, that
was something different. How are we at,

2142
03:08:54,983 --> 03:08:58,283
is this actually true? They just said
they could clean this up in 60 days.

2143
03:08:58,463 --> 03:09:03,313
And I saw a report yesterday saying up to
four months. Is that what we're thinking

2144
03:09:03,313 --> 03:09:07,293
it's gonna take three or four months that
was ultra conservative estimate that is

2145
03:09:07,293 --> 03:09:12,633
not satisfactory for me I understand we're
picking up debris as we speak right now

2146
03:09:12,633 --> 03:09:17,153
So so we're picking up debris if we
don't actually know the cubic yards.

2147
03:09:17,413 --> 03:09:19,953
Well, I'm not saying we don't know the
keep your guard I'm telling you what you what

2148
03:09:19,953 --> 03:09:25,173
our consultant has said to me and that's
all that's that's what would hurt happen

2149
03:09:25,173 --> 03:09:30,313
This vendor help if we can but that you
know, I ain't saying the other two aren't I

2150
03:09:30,313 --> 03:09:34,153
don't know any of y 'all I'll be honest
with you. I don't have any fight in this

2151
03:09:34,153 --> 03:09:39,293
game. But what I do care about is that
the county gets back to normal as soon as

2152
03:09:39,293 --> 03:09:42,993
possible. That's all I care about. And
if that takes five more of these people,

2153
03:09:43,373 --> 03:09:47,813
I'm worried. That's all I care about. So I
think that we should consider all options

2154
03:09:47,813 --> 03:09:48,353
at this time.

2155
03:09:50,683 --> 03:09:54,743
And to confirm, like, your contract's
ready to go? Like, we have an active...

2156
03:09:54,743 --> 03:09:59,103
Yes, ma 'am. So the county has active,
competitively procured contracts in place.

2157
03:10:00,083 --> 03:10:03,323
There's a contract in place with Ashford.
There's a contract in place with panhandle

2158
03:10:03,323 --> 03:10:08,423
paving and these agenda item as I
asked the county administrator on Saturday if you

2159
03:10:08,423 --> 03:10:11,983
are Withdrawing our notice to proceed who
are you moving forward with because you

2160
03:10:11,983 --> 03:10:16,103
don't actually have a contract with roads
Inc It was purchased by a company Alabama,

2161
03:10:16,103 --> 03:10:20,243
which is why it's on the agenda to prove
today. I have no problem I agree let all

2162
03:10:20,243 --> 03:10:24,243
three companies work after Sally the county was
split into three So I want to be

2163
03:10:24,243 --> 03:10:27,803
clear. I'm not advocating against any other
company. I just want to be clear We're

2164
03:10:27,803 --> 03:10:31,643
very proud of our partnership. We We put
a lot of resources into our blue sky work

2165
03:10:31,643 --> 03:10:35,703
with the county and the staff. We have
resources here and we'd be proud to support

2166
03:10:35,703 --> 03:10:40,423
the efficient, safe, quick cleanup for this
county. And I do agree with Commissioner

2167
03:10:40,423 --> 03:10:43,683
Kohler on this so thank you
for those comments. Mel Pino.

2168
03:10:46,323 --> 03:10:50,763
Thank you Chairwoman Haufberger.
Mel Pino 413 Southeast Boblitz.

2169
03:10:53,723 --> 03:10:57,323
If... The road stuff is only one
third of what it was with Sally.

2170
03:10:57,643 --> 03:11:01,943
It sounds like we had a one third of
a storm with Sally, so the EMS response wasn't

2171
03:11:01,943 --> 03:11:05,343
that big of a deal, and the fact that
you guys already have the roads clear is

2172
03:11:05,343 --> 03:11:11,543
nothing, because it ain't nothing of a
storm, right, Wes? You can't have it both

2173
03:11:11,543 --> 03:11:16,503
ways. You can't say, oh, we did this
amazing thing because we had this horrible

2174
03:11:16,503 --> 03:11:20,003
storm, and then go, it ain't that big
of a storm, so we only need a couple of

2175
03:11:20,003 --> 03:11:26,723
contractors on this. It doesn't
pass... Any smell test and and after

2176
03:11:26,723 --> 03:11:31,343
Sally when we had roads Inc in the north
we had panhandle paving in the middle and

2177
03:11:31,343 --> 03:11:37,263
we had Ash breath Brit down in the south
Ash brit was in charge of Navy point We

2178
03:11:37,263 --> 03:11:43,923
still finally had to write the county and
get written permission to clear our roads

2179
03:11:44,503 --> 03:11:48,623
because It was that long in coming.

2180
03:11:48,823 --> 03:11:54,783
Now, I commend you, sir, because you are
right. Your response on some of the main

2181
03:11:54,783 --> 03:12:00,143
roads in the county has been so much
better than it was after Sally, which was a

2182
03:12:00,143 --> 03:12:04,103
total wreck. But now we're getting
into the nitty gritty, right?

2183
03:12:04,623 --> 03:12:07,923
Commissioner Kohler says, I don't want to
go to jail. Hell of a lot of people over

2184
03:12:07,923 --> 03:12:09,323
in Bay County got indicted.

2185
03:12:10,723 --> 03:12:14,223
I'm not saying that there's
anything illegal going on here.

2186
03:12:14,363 --> 03:12:18,183
That is not what I'm saying. Okay,
I haven't seen the contracts.

2187
03:12:18,403 --> 03:12:24,843
How the hell would I know? But it makes
no sense. And it's not just for Ashbread.

2188
03:12:25,883 --> 03:12:30,623
You've got an agenda item coming up where
every single company that can do this kind

2189
03:12:30,623 --> 03:12:35,583
of work that's got a standing
contract with the county is on there.

2190
03:12:35,903 --> 03:12:40,003
I think Joy brings that
one. them all out there.

2191
03:12:40,563 --> 03:12:45,263
This is what the whole fight was and you
were on the right side of that fight after

2192
03:12:45,263 --> 03:12:46,003
Sally,

2193
03:12:47,283 --> 03:12:52,543
Administrator Marino, I stood here and
stood here and stood here for the small

2194
03:12:52,543 --> 03:12:59,403
vendors saying why are you boxing
the small guys out to gift everything

2195
03:12:59,403 --> 03:13:03,453
to Rhodes Inc. And then there was
the whole scandal with Rhodes Inc.

2196
03:13:03,553 --> 03:13:07,913
where they were not only transporting,
but then one of their sister companies was

2197
03:13:07,913 --> 03:13:11,453
weighing the tonnage before they were
dumping it. I don't remember if they were

2198
03:13:11,453 --> 03:13:14,733
dumping it on county property or
there was a burrow pit up there. Hell,

2199
03:13:14,873 --> 03:13:20,193
they might have owned the burrow pit, too.
I don't remember. Again, it's not on the

2200
03:13:20,193 --> 03:13:24,213
vendors to police themselves.
It's on the county.

2201
03:13:24,793 --> 03:13:29,603
Get the little guys out there, get the
medium guys out there. Four months is

2202
03:13:29,603 --> 03:13:30,323
ridiculous.

2203
03:13:31,643 --> 03:13:35,823
Sally didn't even take four months,
and that was the worst response.

2204
03:13:36,263 --> 03:13:41,463
I mean, just a really ridiculous response.
So Wes, it's been so good up to this

2205
03:13:41,463 --> 03:13:45,483
point. Get everybody cranking and
get this thing done in a month.

2206
03:13:45,683 --> 03:13:51,283
We don't need conservative estimates
of four months. I got more questions.

2207
03:13:51,763 --> 03:13:56,523
How did this company get a notice
to proceed and then rescind it?

2208
03:13:56,843 --> 03:14:00,463
I don't understand how that happened. Because
we thought we were going to have much

2209
03:14:00,463 --> 03:14:06,963
more debris than what was communicated to
me after Thompson did the two assessments.

2210
03:14:08,023 --> 03:14:11,843
So when we looked at the amount of debris
that was communicated, I just didn't feel

2211
03:14:11,843 --> 03:14:15,983
like we needed three. Who did that?
You were Andrew at Waisman. Thompson Engineering

2212
03:14:15,983 --> 03:14:21,793
did that. But who did the air or for me to
order was that yourself in the in the IC?

2213
03:14:22,293 --> 03:14:26,233
So who told these folks and noticed you
at the notice to proceed where they start

2214
03:14:26,233 --> 03:14:30,213
bringing in and release Okay, and he
didn't communicate that with you in the IC

2215
03:14:30,213 --> 03:14:34,033
because that's a problem for me to we
wish need to keep we were in communication

2216
03:14:34,033 --> 03:14:38,593
When we got the initial debris estimate
and it wasn't as much as what we initially

2217
03:14:38,593 --> 03:14:44,723
initially thought we made a decision I
made a decision I like this I was on the

2218
03:14:44,723 --> 03:14:49,533
other side of Hurricane Sally On the
remediation side like the water fire mold side

2219
03:14:49,533 --> 03:14:53,793
and this is as far as debris way worse
than what we saw with Sally Sally was a

2220
03:14:53,793 --> 03:14:57,883
flooding event This was a wind event and
I don't Thankfully, we have an a great

2221
03:14:57,883 --> 03:15:04,213
emergency management team, but I don't think this
is what any of us expected so We

2222
03:15:04,213 --> 03:15:09,393
need madam chair. What are you saying is
worse than Sally the wind event and the

2223
03:15:09,393 --> 03:15:12,913
down trees? I mean in East Hill,
one out of every five trees is down.

2224
03:15:13,313 --> 03:15:16,913
We can't even get down 17. That's I mean
that's not countywide. I'm not saying

2225
03:15:16,913 --> 03:15:20,473
that's not your experience. That's not
countywide at all. The north end is a

2226
03:15:20,473 --> 03:15:25,113
fraction of the impact that it was in Sally
and I say a fraction less than a quarter

2227
03:15:25,113 --> 03:15:31,073
as far as trees down, roads blocked. I mean
you were able to and I say you because I

2228
03:15:31,073 --> 03:15:36,313
did I was able to traverse every road on
Saturday morning by 11 o 'clock that I went

2229
03:15:36,313 --> 03:15:39,733
down. Now some of them I had to go one
lane but we had road crews there that had

2230
03:15:39,733 --> 03:15:45,563
cleaned it off. That was we were 36 hours
before you could do that after Sally.

2231
03:15:45,983 --> 03:15:50,523
I mean I'm not saying your experience in
District 4 is different than what you're

2232
03:15:50,523 --> 03:15:55,643
saying but that's not countywide by any means.
I was not surprised to hear when West

2233
03:15:55,643 --> 03:15:59,363
told me that the debris looked to be
a third of Sally because the impact in District

2234
03:15:59,363 --> 03:15:59,763
5.

2235
03:16:01,873 --> 03:16:06,293
I mean and obviously not just me
everyone was able to traverse everywhere.

2236
03:16:06,833 --> 03:16:12,953
within 24 hours and that's that we were
nowhere close to that previously I Mean I

2237
03:16:12,953 --> 03:16:15,613
can't get from one end of my neighborhood
to the other and I have people in the

2238
03:16:15,613 --> 03:16:20,513
other side that can't either So I don't
maybe district four was it worse than the

2239
03:16:20,513 --> 03:16:24,233
other districts. I mean, I don't think so
No, we look like crap on the west side.

2240
03:16:24,473 --> 03:16:28,133
Hey madam chair I haven't had some
question because the county attorney just said

2241
03:16:28,133 --> 03:16:33,613
something to me and I had did all
nine companies get a notification to proceed No,

2242
03:16:33,633 --> 03:16:39,533
they did not. Oh So what what companies
did get a notification to proceed because I

2243
03:16:39,533 --> 03:16:45,073
just thought they all did that was
something I did no Ashford panhandle and CR

2244
03:16:45,073 --> 03:16:51,903
CW farmers And they were the only
ones that were rescinded because the

2245
03:16:51,903 --> 03:16:54,463
volume that is correct. Okay

2246
03:16:57,563 --> 03:17:01,983
Do you feel like we still need to
move this item? Do we have a second?

2247
03:17:03,713 --> 03:17:05,913
Oh, I'm sorry Francesca. Thank you. I

2248
03:17:08,573 --> 03:17:13,723
just want to speak just one more
thing like I know this is contracting,

2249
03:17:14,183 --> 03:17:18,093
but I got connected with an organization.

2250
03:17:18,833 --> 03:17:24,653
It's called Foundation Unites in the Redneck
Navy. This is an organization that goes

2251
03:17:24,653 --> 03:17:28,633
all over the United States. They
go on to the Galwaya -Lubay River.

2252
03:17:29,213 --> 03:17:32,693
They've gone to Sanibel.
They've done Milton.

2253
03:17:35,223 --> 03:17:40,263
They even, I was talking to them the other
day, at some point they've even talked to

2254
03:17:40,263 --> 03:17:47,143
Ron DeSantis at these points. They
are experts at Search and Rescue, they

2255
03:17:47,143 --> 03:17:52,903
are doing tree cutting, they have a
volunteer workforce, this is someone that really

2256
03:17:52,903 --> 03:17:59,203
knows. And I'm a former emergency
manager, like I've developed,

2257
03:17:59,823 --> 03:18:03,943
from Washington, D.C., I've developed
these connections along the way.

2258
03:18:05,053 --> 03:18:08,613
To be all this is a political
I'm trying to do is help.

2259
03:18:09,273 --> 03:18:15,413
So this is someone that they've created
a ticketing system for all of Escambia

2260
03:18:15,413 --> 03:18:19,773
County everywhere trying to help
with this. It's on my website.

2261
03:18:20,053 --> 03:18:25,913
It's someone that you really want to
connect with. They just came back from Illinois

2262
03:18:25,913 --> 03:18:32,753
trying to help the tornadoes
over there. So y 'all have my

2263
03:18:32,753 --> 03:18:37,693
phone number. I'll be more than happy to
talk to you. I can give you the number to

2264
03:18:37,693 --> 03:18:41,773
the national commander,
especially with Tree, DeBree.

2265
03:18:41,913 --> 03:18:46,433
They're getting mattresses, they're
getting food, they have connections with

2266
03:18:46,433 --> 03:18:46,873
Walmart.

2267
03:18:48,433 --> 03:18:53,753
I had one point in Century to get it, but
I have no idea why the town of Century

2268
03:18:53,753 --> 03:18:58,833
turned it down. But please,
please take the help.

2269
03:18:59,013 --> 03:19:04,863
I'm trying the best I can and...
I got barbecue from Operation barbecue yesterday.

2270
03:19:04,863 --> 03:19:09,063
I'm getting another one I'm trying to set
it up at McDavid as well because people

2271
03:19:09,063 --> 03:19:14,843
are asking me so I'm trying to do so
the more the help they can so Thank you.

2272
03:19:15,023 --> 03:19:20,113
Madam chair before we move this item
because I want more discussion Wes what would

2273
03:19:20,113 --> 03:19:23,793
it hurt to add this company to
help with the system and pick up?

2274
03:19:23,953 --> 03:19:28,693
I'm struggling with what it would hurt us
to add them. I'm not sitting there saying

2275
03:19:28,693 --> 03:19:32,803
it would hurt I think you would modify
your existing contracts with your existing

2276
03:19:32,803 --> 03:19:36,983
haulers because somebody's going to give
up area. So there would have to be some

2277
03:19:36,983 --> 03:19:40,463
discussion with your existing haulers that
you have. But that would mean more trucks

2278
03:19:40,463 --> 03:19:44,743
on the road and better service for the
citizens? It would definitely mean more

2279
03:19:44,743 --> 03:19:49,463
trucks on the road, yes. Then I'd like to
add them to the contract. I don't know if

2280
03:19:49,463 --> 03:19:54,623
we do it here, but I'm all about getting
things cleaned up. And I know I just think

2281
03:19:54,623 --> 03:19:58,923
I know you're the IC. I didn't realize
that they were the only other company that

2282
03:19:58,923 --> 03:20:03,443
were noticed to proceed and then rescinded.
I don't like that. Maybe that's the way

2283
03:20:03,443 --> 03:20:05,703
we do things, but that
doesn't seem right to me.

2284
03:20:08,063 --> 03:20:10,923
I'll make a motion to add them. I don't
know if I have a second, but I'll make a

2285
03:20:10,923 --> 03:20:15,823
motion to add them to the contract. I'll
second it. Mike, why don't there's huge

2286
03:20:15,823 --> 03:20:18,783
discrepancies in the amount of the debris
between what our paid consultants are?

2287
03:20:18,783 --> 03:20:20,963
Steve, it still doesn't matter
to me. It's about cleaning up.

2288
03:20:22,413 --> 03:20:27,833
So we have a motion from
Commissioner Kohler, a second from Commissioner Stroberger.

2289
03:20:28,953 --> 03:20:29,233
All in favor?

2290
03:20:31,033 --> 03:20:36,583
Okay. All opposed? Okay, motion passes.
3 -1 with Commissioner May off the dais.

2291
03:20:36,783 --> 03:20:39,543
Thank you. May I clarify?
Yes ma 'am. Thank you.

2292
03:20:40,923 --> 03:20:45,163
Just from a contract, we're already on the
contract, and in order to, the item was

2293
03:20:45,163 --> 03:20:48,373
already adding one, so now you're just...
splitting the zone three ways instead of

2294
03:20:48,373 --> 03:20:51,753
one way. So it was already being changed.
So thank you very much. And we look

2295
03:20:51,753 --> 03:20:56,773
forward to supporting. Yes, ma 'am.
Thank you. Okay. Item number 33, Melissa.

2296
03:20:57,853 --> 03:20:59,853
Melissa is our only speaker on this item.

2297
03:21:01,363 --> 03:21:04,583
We'll spin a four one three southeast bottle.
It's just quickly to get the stuff on

2298
03:21:04,583 --> 03:21:08,503
record. I don't want to be talking to this
after. I'm sorry, Melissa. Madam chair.

2299
03:21:08,543 --> 03:21:12,023
We still need to move the item allowing
the acceptance of the contracts.

2300
03:21:12,903 --> 03:21:17,163
We have additional. Okay. You
still need to move item 32.

2301
03:21:17,503 --> 03:21:20,933
I move item 32. Okay. I thought it was 32.

2302
03:21:25,543 --> 03:21:29,843
Yes. Oh, with the original 31. Okay,
so Commissioner Berry made a motion.

2303
03:21:30,343 --> 03:21:33,343
Commissioner Kohler second. All
in favor? Okay, 4 -0. Thank you.

2304
03:21:34,663 --> 03:21:39,183
Let's reset Melissa's
timer. Thank you. Thank you.

2305
03:21:39,383 --> 03:21:44,793
Don't want to be talking about this after
a hurricane. Nobody cares. I mean I care

2306
03:21:44,793 --> 03:21:48,713
but it's certainly not a focus
right now, but it's on the agenda.

2307
03:21:49,633 --> 03:21:56,153
So I wanted to take this opportunity to
just put on record so that we just keep

2308
03:21:56,153 --> 03:22:01,173
putting things on record that after
the last meeting there were plenty of

2309
03:22:01,173 --> 03:22:07,273
revelations and Commissioner Kohler
as you found out you got handed

2310
03:22:07,533 --> 03:22:11,093
massively outdated documentation.

2311
03:22:11,783 --> 03:22:16,203
from back in 2013 on the library stuff.

2312
03:22:16,883 --> 03:22:22,203
I went and checked the state and yes,
obviously we are okay on these grants and as

2313
03:22:22,203 --> 03:22:26,623
we should be because my understanding
is the new interim actually has the

2314
03:22:26,623 --> 03:22:31,503
qualifications right now to get these grants. But
I just wanted to take a moment to

2315
03:22:31,503 --> 03:22:34,763
put it on record that there's going to be
people that continue to comb through all

2316
03:22:34,763 --> 03:22:39,703
of this stuff because every time we do,
Half the time something turns out not to be

2317
03:22:39,703 --> 03:22:44,743
true. So the county attorney's office, just
to get it on record, sat there knowing

2318
03:22:44,743 --> 03:22:50,883
that they had signed off on the bylaws
for the Library Board of Governance in

2319
03:22:50,883 --> 03:22:56,903
2024 and yet handed
Commissioner Kohler 2013

2320
03:22:56,903 --> 03:23:03,593
bylaws to go off of. And in addition,
The addendum, which I am grateful

2321
03:23:03,593 --> 03:23:07,373
to Allison for mentioning the addendum
because nobody knew about the addendum.

2322
03:23:07,833 --> 03:23:13,873
So the addendum passed under Administrator
Marino, so he was more than aware of all

2323
03:23:13,873 --> 03:23:17,853
of this or should have been because that
addendum was only a couple of years ago

2324
03:23:17,853 --> 03:23:22,693
when you, sir, had already been administrator
for a full year and were getting ready

2325
03:23:22,693 --> 03:23:23,973
to be made full time.

2326
03:23:25,433 --> 03:23:30,453
Let's get it back on track. The Library
Board of Governance is the policy board.

2327
03:23:31,093 --> 03:23:35,273
They should be involved in this.
Again, don't shoot the messenger.

2328
03:23:35,933 --> 03:23:39,873
I didn't make them the policy board,
and I apologize, Commissioner Barry,

2329
03:23:40,113 --> 03:23:43,493
you didn't make them the policy board
because you didn't vote for that.

2330
03:23:43,673 --> 03:23:49,533
I had assumed you did. If the county
wouldn't have taken all of the video down from

2331
03:23:49,533 --> 03:23:55,273
online, people could be more accurate.
Maybe we could get that video back up so

2332
03:23:55,273 --> 03:23:59,613
people can be more accurate. Maybe we
can get it up so staff can do their jobs

2333
03:23:59,613 --> 03:24:04,073
better Maybe mr. Marino that could be something
that you could do to balance out the

2334
03:24:04,073 --> 03:24:08,973
library thing is to take all of those
videos that when Bart connived with the

2335
03:24:08,973 --> 03:24:15,653
clerk's office to get rid of the swag
it for the $5,000 a year pittance

2336
03:24:16,243 --> 03:24:22,003
that we were paying for it. And now,
as last I knew, those videos were on an

2337
03:24:22,003 --> 03:24:27,083
external drive in the clerk's
office, in Pam's office, and in IT.

2338
03:24:27,663 --> 03:24:32,683
So maybe we could have those videos go back
up on the library website in an act of

2339
03:24:32,683 --> 03:24:37,483
goodwill for transparency for the
public. Thank you. Thank you, Mel.

2340
03:24:37,903 --> 03:24:39,463
That concludes our speaker for this item.

2341
03:24:43,233 --> 03:24:47,213
Thank you, sir. All in favor?
Okay, four -oh. Thank you.

2342
03:24:47,653 --> 03:24:49,093
County Attorneys report, Allison?

2343
03:24:51,643 --> 03:24:56,923
Yes, there is one item for discussion and
this is from the board direction at the

2344
03:24:56,923 --> 03:25:02,283
last board meeting having to do with data
centers. I do believe probably a few of

2345
03:25:02,283 --> 03:25:06,103
your folks out there have signed up to speak
on this issue. I do want to point out

2346
03:25:06,103 --> 03:25:10,893
that in the 2025 state
legislative session.

2347
03:25:11,173 --> 03:25:15,633
They did a lot of very preemptive things
and one of the things that they did at the

2348
03:25:15,633 --> 03:25:20,273
state legislature is they passed Senate
Bill 180 which has come up a few times on

2349
03:25:20,273 --> 03:25:26,913
planning and land use stuff and in that
action it does say that we are not supposed

2350
03:25:26,913 --> 03:25:31,673
to pass a moratorium on land development
related items within 12 months of the

2351
03:25:31,673 --> 03:25:32,933
landfall of a hurricane.

2352
03:25:34,433 --> 03:25:36,193
So heads up.

2353
03:25:37,743 --> 03:25:44,723
That said are there repercussions for that?
I think it the the primary Reprocution

2354
03:25:44,723 --> 03:25:48,703
would be the effectiveness of the moratorium
that would be I think the primary

2355
03:25:48,703 --> 03:25:53,803
repercussion I guess if it really ticked
the state off they could try to be Mean to

2356
03:25:53,803 --> 03:25:57,323
us and there have a number of ways by
which they could do that, but okay.

2357
03:25:57,323 --> 03:26:01,723
Thank you for that. Heads up I appreciate
that our first speaker is John Moore and

2358
03:26:01,723 --> 03:26:04,223
after John is brainy Johnson Miss

2359
03:26:13,623 --> 03:26:17,643
Allison, I noticed that too About the
hurricane. It's gonna be fun, isn't it?

2360
03:26:19,203 --> 03:26:23,083
All right, good morning again. And this
time I get to be short. You guys appear to

2361
03:26:23,083 --> 03:26:26,143
have absolutely no idea how to put in
writing what you say from up there on the

2362
03:26:26,143 --> 03:26:30,523
dice. Many of you profess to agree with
the public that you support a total ban on

2363
03:26:30,523 --> 03:26:34,463
data centers in Escambia County while others
of you banner around semantics and try

2364
03:26:34,463 --> 03:26:39,563
to dress up a defense of varying degrees
of allowable uses. County Council tells us

2365
03:26:39,563 --> 03:26:43,243
data centers are banned because they aren't
on some allowable uses list or something

2366
03:26:43,243 --> 03:26:47,063
to that effect while a major developer
applies to include them in packages that

2367
03:26:47,063 --> 03:26:51,303
float before planning boards in this
panel. Unaware as yet that the data center

2368
03:26:51,303 --> 03:26:55,103
language has been removed from the actual
proposals that are follow ups to the ones

2369
03:26:55,103 --> 03:27:00,403
you guys are discussing. So why not codify
an outright ban until all of you disclose

2370
03:27:00,403 --> 03:27:05,753
which and how many NDAs you are signatory
to. that have some sort of data center,

2371
03:27:05,913 --> 03:27:09,973
data storage, or data retrieval and data
transmission language embedded in them.

2372
03:27:10,233 --> 03:27:14,533
That way, you will finally know who is
playing protect my piece of pie and why you

2373
03:27:14,533 --> 03:27:18,673
can't make progress. If you aren't
signatory to any NDAs regarding any of the

2374
03:27:18,673 --> 03:27:20,253
aforementioned topics, raise your hand.

2375
03:27:23,243 --> 03:27:26,603
I think it's only fair the public gets to
know who's getting played and who's doing

2376
03:27:26,603 --> 03:27:28,503
the playing. Thank you.
People are watching.

2377
03:27:30,033 --> 03:27:35,273
Thank you. John, I am. About the NDA's
Allison has told us before or at least told

2378
03:27:35,273 --> 03:27:39,753
me don't sign them They won't hold up your
County Commissioner is all subject So I

2379
03:27:39,753 --> 03:27:43,833
don't I don't know what I don't have one
of those and I don't think that it would

2380
03:27:43,833 --> 03:27:49,373
hold up anyway Yes, so we have
been directed whether other people heed that advice

2381
03:27:49,373 --> 03:27:52,293
or not. I don't know but that's fair Thank
you, ma 'am. Yes, sir. You're welcome

2382
03:27:52,293 --> 03:27:54,873
Brandy and after Brandy
will be Margaret Hostetter

2383
03:27:57,613 --> 03:28:03,073
It's very unfortunate because with the
last situation with OLF 8 and when we were

2384
03:28:03,073 --> 03:28:07,533
told the developer would answer the public's
question, one of the main questions is

2385
03:28:07,533 --> 03:28:13,033
that warehouse and accessory data center.
And I even stood here with a sign for all

2386
03:28:13,033 --> 03:28:17,533
of you to see to ask that developer
that specific question for the community and the

2387
03:28:17,533 --> 03:28:20,913
people in the districts that you
represent and nobody asked the question.

2388
03:28:21,413 --> 03:28:26,153
And it was not answered. I think the public
has the right to know. Would that be a

2389
03:28:26,153 --> 03:28:27,833
set on the data center issues?

2390
03:28:29,133 --> 03:28:32,933
Miss Hochberger you've done interviews
saying you're opposed to data centers.

2391
03:28:33,393 --> 03:28:37,953
Mr. Stroberger has held up signs with
photo ops saying no data centers.

2392
03:28:38,573 --> 03:28:43,113
Mr. Lumen may said we don't want
accessory we don't want any. Mr.

2393
03:28:43,313 --> 03:28:47,493
Berry seemed to be on our side. Mr. Kohler
has stated he doesn't want data centers.

2394
03:28:47,733 --> 03:28:51,693
So the fact that this moratorium being
presented here today is capped at 10

2395
03:28:51,693 --> 03:28:56,593
megawatts is disgraceful. It doesn't stand
behind anything that has been committed

2396
03:28:56,593 --> 03:29:03,253
to the citizens and stated from this board.
I think it's important to state as well

2397
03:29:03,253 --> 03:29:08,073
that 10 megawatts is a lot of energy. And
if we let one end, that's not the only

2398
03:29:08,073 --> 03:29:14,643
ones coming. There will be multiple. So
What I'm asking is that the 10 megawatt

2399
03:29:14,643 --> 03:29:19,763
language be removed and that we do it on
any and all until we know what the effects

2400
03:29:19,763 --> 03:29:23,203
on our community will be because if
you look around this country right now,

2401
03:29:23,503 --> 03:29:27,963
you got data centers causing major issues
for the citizens. We just survived a

2402
03:29:27,963 --> 03:29:28,923
natural disaster.

2403
03:29:30,463 --> 03:29:35,283
In many places across this country, the
first people to be restored aren't the

2404
03:29:35,283 --> 03:29:39,403
citizens, it's the data centers and we
should matter more than that. Our water

2405
03:29:39,403 --> 03:29:43,143
should be protected our grid should be
protected and matter of fact speaking of grid

2406
03:29:43,143 --> 03:29:47,483
I meant to say this in public forum FPL
should not raise our rates because of this

2407
03:29:47,483 --> 03:29:52,163
hurricane They stood before this board and
the City Council when they took over and

2408
03:29:52,163 --> 03:29:57,163
I wrote the petition back in 2022 About
the rate increase they promised in four

2409
03:29:57,163 --> 03:30:01,627
years our rates would go down who is
advocating for that Who holds them to their

2410
03:30:01,627 --> 03:30:05,967
words see all these developers and companies
and everybody else with the big money

2411
03:30:05,967 --> 03:30:09,867
comes into our community making all
these promises But who is holding them

2412
03:30:09,867 --> 03:30:13,887
accountable to their word to the people
and to the citizens? Because we're the ones

2413
03:30:13,887 --> 03:30:16,987
that's supposed to matter. We're the ones
that suffer We're the ones that's got to

2414
03:30:16,987 --> 03:30:20,767
fit the bill to upgrade infrastructure
when something goes wrong. We're stuck

2415
03:30:20,767 --> 03:30:23,067
holding the bag so

2416
03:30:24,557 --> 03:30:29,977
I humbly ask all of you to please take the
10 megawatt language out and do what you

2417
03:30:29,977 --> 03:30:33,577
said you were going to do from the very
beginning and advocate for what the

2418
03:30:33,577 --> 03:30:35,317
community has been begging for.

2419
03:30:38,987 --> 03:30:39,767
Thank you.

2420
03:30:41,137 --> 03:30:45,257
Thank you, Brandy. Margaret Hostetter
and after Margaret is Francesca.

2421
03:30:55,107 --> 03:30:58,167
Margaret Hostetter. During the OLF 8,

2422
03:31:00,607 --> 03:31:06,487
Commissioner Stroberger gave his
position. He is in the district OLF 8 and

2423
03:31:06,487 --> 03:31:11,987
Commissioner Kohler gave his opinion and
his plan to vote and I appreciate that.

2424
03:31:12,527 --> 03:31:16,827
And three of you said nothing again now.

2425
03:31:17,007 --> 03:31:20,647
Margaret, if you've emailed my office, I
have sent out a signing letter every single

2426
03:31:20,647 --> 03:31:27,497
time. All right, thank you. So
I believe what we asked for was

2427
03:31:27,497 --> 03:31:33,497
today an explanation. And that is easy enough
to do if you've written it up and sent

2428
03:31:33,497 --> 03:31:36,017
it out. You could summarize
it and present it.

2429
03:31:37,417 --> 03:31:42,437
What I'm seeing is what has been
said is happening and always happens.

2430
03:31:42,737 --> 03:31:47,037
It makes me feel that you
all are lazy about your work.

2431
03:31:47,907 --> 03:31:54,767
Whoever is district the item is
in, his decision or hers is the

2432
03:31:54,767 --> 03:32:01,667
primary decision. This is
a code of behavior that

2433
03:32:01,667 --> 03:32:08,357
is apparently the understood code. So
when Commissioner Stroberger gave his

2434
03:32:08,357 --> 03:32:09,077
decision.

2435
03:32:10,817 --> 03:32:16,037
You all apparently felt
somewhat obliged to follow suit.

2436
03:32:17,077 --> 03:32:23,957
And I object to that. And I think
the public objects to that. We don't behave that

2437
03:32:23,957 --> 03:32:25,297
way in a democracy.

2438
03:32:27,267 --> 03:32:29,487
As far as this data center,

2439
03:32:34,117 --> 03:32:39,197
please do not support
this with the 10 megawatt

2440
03:32:39,707 --> 03:32:45,567
starting point. You have
all stated and you claim you

2441
03:32:45,567 --> 03:32:51,807
constantly berate us for
being concerned by saying that

2442
03:32:51,807 --> 03:32:55,747
there is a ban. Well, there isn't.

2443
03:32:57,207 --> 03:33:04,107
So we do need this time a year, whether
you call it a moratorium or a ban or

2444
03:33:04,107 --> 03:33:08,167
what have you, where none are allowed.

2445
03:33:08,867 --> 03:33:12,467
Why? We need to have a whole

2446
03:33:21,917 --> 03:33:27,937
to show what protections
will be put into our code.

2447
03:33:29,597 --> 03:33:36,117
Even if we say we are having no data
centers, we must put language in our code to

2448
03:33:36,117 --> 03:33:42,677
say that specifically and
clearly and to put in there what

2449
03:33:42,677 --> 03:33:46,157
protections will be put into our code.
the ramifications are if somehow a data

2450
03:33:46,157 --> 03:33:49,737
center sneaks through for legal reasons.

2451
03:33:50,777 --> 03:33:57,297
And that is huge. So please do that
and protect us because you're not

2452
03:33:57,297 --> 03:34:01,757
protecting us by just saying they're
banned. Francesca, you're next.

2453
03:34:04,817 --> 03:34:08,517
I can understand how this process is
difficult if you've never been through the

2454
03:34:08,517 --> 03:34:13,637
permitting process, but Horace's office
does not just stamp approval on anything.

2455
03:34:13,977 --> 03:34:17,557
If it is not a conditional use,
you cannot put it in our county.

2456
03:34:17,997 --> 03:34:21,477
So there's no sneaking things through.
Horace, how many people are on your team?

2457
03:34:23,227 --> 03:34:23,567
Roundabout.

2458
03:34:28,067 --> 03:34:31,527
12 people on his team. And I can promise
you, as someone who has been through this

2459
03:34:31,527 --> 03:34:36,307
process before, they rigorously review those plans.
And if it is not an acceptable

2460
03:34:36,307 --> 03:34:38,587
use, they don't stamp approval on it.

2461
03:34:40,857 --> 03:34:46,347
We can get sued either way I know but
I think a friend Francesca you're next.

2462
03:34:46,347 --> 03:34:52,527
Thank you I just want to add that
the county attorney said that it's not all banned

2463
03:34:52,527 --> 03:34:56,667
and I pointed that out in
the last meeting so Okay

2464
03:34:57,977 --> 03:35:03,677
We promised we're gonna keep coming back
until this resolved and attend men have got

2465
03:35:03,677 --> 03:35:10,277
what moratorium does not resolve it We
asked for a complete permanent and all banned

2466
03:35:10,277 --> 03:35:11,437
in prohibition.

2467
03:35:13,057 --> 03:35:18,097
I sent you the research report just
yesterday and explained what I found.

2468
03:35:18,697 --> 03:35:25,617
10 megawatts is 10,000 kilowatts and
powers over close to 8,000 houses.

2469
03:35:26,337 --> 03:35:30,017
According to the Department of Veterans
and Fairage and older VA hospitals,

2470
03:35:30,707 --> 03:35:35,807
A typical support of loads
is 25 to 75 kilowatts.

2471
03:35:36,287 --> 03:35:42,787
A Florida hospital is
documented data center with 100

2472
03:35:42,787 --> 03:35:48,887
kilowatts to power their systems. Right
here in Pensacola, engineering records

2473
03:35:48,887 --> 03:35:55,067
document that the square foot
computer is 2,000 of Navy Federal

2474
03:35:55,067 --> 03:36:01,877
cell phone towers. And the
International Telecom standards show

2475
03:36:01,877 --> 03:36:08,157
ordinary equipment is a
kilowatts, not 10 megawatts.

2476
03:36:08,477 --> 03:36:13,857
These are essential. No one is asking
you to prohibit hospital banks, servers,

2477
03:36:14,097 --> 03:36:19,357
or cell phone towers. But this is
the research that I've been covered that you've

2478
03:36:19,357 --> 03:36:25,257
been asking. In July of 2026,
commercial AI facilities...

2479
03:36:25,167 --> 03:36:30,087
in Taiwan can just do an AI
senators at five megawatts.

2480
03:36:30,487 --> 03:36:37,387
That is half of 10 megawatts. And that's
what the OLF8 center has now is five

2481
03:36:37,387 --> 03:36:44,347
megawatts. And right here in Florida,
an American tower proposed to separate a

2482
03:36:44,347 --> 03:36:50,947
four megawatts edge data center and its
properties and near cell phone tower in

2483
03:36:50,947 --> 03:36:54,467
Tampa. That is four thousand kilowatts.

2484
03:36:54,607 --> 03:37:00,347
It's not simply equipment of a cell
phone tower. Now imagine a nine megawatt

2485
03:37:00,347 --> 03:37:06,627
industrial A I feel it running in a
clock. It could consume 79 million

2486
03:37:06,627 --> 03:37:12,107
kilowatts. This is why 10 kilowatt
threshold does not resolve the issue.

2487
03:37:12,727 --> 03:37:17,627
In the October meeting, Commissioner Berry
asked the county attorney to look into

2488
03:37:17,627 --> 03:37:23,367
whether developers could divide large facilities
into smarter ones, and that didn't

2489
03:37:23,367 --> 03:37:28,327
happen. Now we're standing here and
discussing and repeating. And the same thing,

2490
03:37:28,567 --> 03:37:35,427
the county attorney, after I probed
that it is saying that you have to look

2491
03:37:35,427 --> 03:37:42,317
to it. It is not prohibited, and it has to

2492
03:37:42,317 --> 03:37:48,817
be Written in original the Florida Supreme
Court says if it's not written in it's

2493
03:37:48,817 --> 03:37:55,317
not prohibited Kristi Rosen you're
next and after Kristi Rosen is

2494
03:37:55,317 --> 03:37:56,337
Janice

2495
03:38:02,257 --> 03:38:08,137
Janice at the lake Good to say good
afternoon now Commissioners Kristi Rosen

2496
03:38:08,137 --> 03:38:12,457
representing if not us and Gulf Coast against
data centers This is a start and we

2497
03:38:12,457 --> 03:38:16,737
appreciate it, but this is not going to
get us to stop coming We are under threat

2498
03:38:16,737 --> 03:38:20,897
from smaller data centers according to
Chris Plattay and this leaves Wiggle Room.

2499
03:38:21,597 --> 03:38:27,377
A single 10 megawatt data center uses
enough power annually to power 48,000 to 108

2500
03:38:27,377 --> 03:38:32,697
,000 homes for an entire year. That means
a single 10 megawatt AI data center would

2501
03:38:32,697 --> 03:38:37,097
nearly double the current residential level
of electric use annually for Escambia

2502
03:38:37,097 --> 03:38:42,387
County. As this game county already has to
purchase a little over 1% of electricity

2503
03:38:42,387 --> 03:38:47,447
a month, our purchase amount would greatly
increase. When averaging the cost of

2504
03:38:47,447 --> 03:38:51,487
purchased and produced electricity, our
costs are going to increase drastically.

2505
03:38:51,747 --> 03:38:57,547
That is from a single AI data center.
You've repeatedly agreed with us that you want

2506
03:38:57,547 --> 03:39:01,727
to protect us from all AI data centers.
Yet this moratorium does not protect us from

2507
03:39:01,727 --> 03:39:03,267
the ones that we are at risk from.

2508
03:39:04,567 --> 03:39:09,947
Nor did it protect us from the LFA
when we've put the five megawatt data center that

2509
03:39:09,947 --> 03:39:16,187
was listed Approved by horse Jones
office since removed at least for now

2510
03:39:16,807 --> 03:39:21,187
You've obviously used the term as accessory,
which has a definition. An accessory AI

2511
03:39:21,187 --> 03:39:26,467
data center is a compact self -contained
unit, usually under 2,500 square feet and

2512
03:39:26,467 --> 03:39:30,247
drawing less than five megawatts.
This sits beside a main building.

2513
03:39:30,727 --> 03:39:34,967
It packs GPUs, other accelerators, high
-speed networking, and liquid cooling.

2514
03:39:35,407 --> 03:39:39,927
It is not a server room. A server room
is a dedicated, usually air -conditioned

2515
03:39:39,927 --> 03:39:44,367
room, typically containing rack servers.
Many server rooms do not even use AI.

2516
03:39:44,887 --> 03:39:50,007
Those that do are processing in -house
data only. AI data centers use high -density

2517
03:39:50,007 --> 03:39:55,307
rack servers packed with GPUs and other
accelerants. Each cabinet can pull 40 to 100

2518
03:39:55,307 --> 03:39:59,787
kilowatts or more and are typically liquid
cooled and far beyond the typical office

2519
03:39:59,787 --> 03:40:05,767
rack server. AI data servers often use co
-location services selling their space and

2520
03:40:05,767 --> 03:40:10,007
services to other companies. We all just
went through this hurricane last week and

2521
03:40:10,007 --> 03:40:15,697
each experienced different levels of devastation.
Our hearts and thoughts with and

2522
03:40:15,697 --> 03:40:20,537
his family. Why anyone would consider
building an AI data center here is crazy.

2523
03:40:21,357 --> 03:40:25,157
The fact that they would get priority and
electoral restoration over our citizens

2524
03:40:25,157 --> 03:40:29,757
when they have generators is abhorrent.
You say you want to protect us from all AI

2525
03:40:29,757 --> 03:40:33,777
data centers, then do that.
Specify AI data centers.

2526
03:40:34,237 --> 03:40:37,997
That excludes server rooms. We all went
to hospitals and banks to function.

2527
03:40:38,357 --> 03:40:42,597
I want to be able to use my cell
phone. I had no issue being an AI ch...

2528
03:40:42,757 --> 03:40:47,557
in AOL chat rooms in the mid -90s when
I still had to dial into the internet.

2529
03:40:48,097 --> 03:40:52,237
All of these functioned pre -AI. We had
really hoped to meet with some of you in

2530
03:40:52,237 --> 03:40:55,477
between the meetings and were disappointed
to receive no response to our email

2531
03:40:55,477 --> 03:40:59,777
request. It is difficult to have a conversation
when we can only speak one at a

2532
03:40:59,777 --> 03:41:03,757
time. We would like nothing more for this
issue to finally be completely addressed

2533
03:41:03,757 --> 03:41:09,277
so that it's off all of our plates in
addition sp 484 over rolls sp 180 allowing you

2534
03:41:09,277 --> 03:41:13,277
to do moratoriums on this issue. Thank
you Kristie Thank you Janice left Jonathan

2535
03:41:13,277 --> 03:41:14,377
green. Are you still here?

2536
03:41:15,847 --> 03:41:19,147
Jonathan's out. Okay, Mel Pino
and after Mel is Kevin Wade

2537
03:41:23,317 --> 03:41:28,077
It's beautiful when three Southeast Boblets
so when yesterday afternoon I'm like God

2538
03:41:28,077 --> 03:41:32,977
I got to go and see what boondoggles that
they've slid onto the agenda after the

2539
03:41:32,977 --> 03:41:39,237
hurricane that time -honored tradition and
found the Pinscolet Inlet Management Plan

2540
03:41:39,237 --> 03:41:44,477
and had found a home on it and then saw
the data centers were on I glanced at the

2541
03:41:44,477 --> 03:41:49,357
backup and I could not understand at
first why the Senate bill was on there.

2542
03:41:49,907 --> 03:41:55,107
and then did understand. I didn't see
the language that it was 12 months.

2543
03:41:55,287 --> 03:42:00,347
That doesn't mean that it's not there. In
my very bleary, tired eyes, I read that

2544
03:42:00,347 --> 03:42:05,807
yes, there is something having to do with
during the emergency you can't pass a

2545
03:42:05,807 --> 03:42:06,347
moratorium.

2546
03:42:07,847 --> 03:42:12,647
Allison says, I think she said 12 months.
I won't believe any of it until I stick my

2547
03:42:12,647 --> 03:42:16,407
fingers in the wounds and read it myself
and then sometimes consult outside

2548
03:42:16,407 --> 03:42:22,257
attorneys. People that are advocating for
this don't like my opinion that it does

2549
03:42:22,257 --> 03:42:27,737
have to be 10 megawatts and I love brandy
I love all of the people that have been

2550
03:42:27,737 --> 03:42:34,397
advocating for this you can't You can't do
anything that's going to harm enterprise

2551
03:42:34,397 --> 03:42:39,297
systems. You can't legislate
on calling those data centers.

2552
03:42:39,617 --> 03:42:43,537
Now, Kristi's getting very close with
all of these things that she's bringing,

2553
03:42:44,077 --> 03:42:49,317
which is why you guys need a moratorium
because you need to know how are you going

2554
03:42:49,317 --> 03:42:53,837
to regulate this. You're
gonna have to regulate this.

2555
03:42:54,137 --> 03:42:58,577
An enterprise server rack
runs about four megawatts.

2556
03:42:59,127 --> 03:43:04,687
The bigger ones will run up to 7,
10 megawatts. So you've got to leave that room

2557
03:43:04,687 --> 03:43:11,447
even for an enterprise server rack style
data center, which is what they are.

2558
03:43:12,207 --> 03:43:17,547
Baptist is probably running, I mean,
it's proprietary, but most hospitals are

2559
03:43:17,547 --> 03:43:22,087
running about 4 megawatts. Some
of them go up to 7 megawatts.

2560
03:43:22,757 --> 03:43:27,077
If they start using AI, they're going
to start packing that in real quick.

2561
03:43:27,317 --> 03:43:33,437
And then how are you going to know? These
are all the things that you guys need to

2562
03:43:33,437 --> 03:43:38,177
have time to figure out. And it's not
your fault that you don't know yet.

2563
03:43:38,457 --> 03:43:44,277
Nobody knows. That's why a moratorium
on anything from 10 to 50 is so crucial.

2564
03:43:44,697 --> 03:43:50,217
Because otherwise, you could just have
people piling in so the aggregate is right

2565
03:43:50,217 --> 03:43:55,847
where what you've banned or worse you
have to have time to digest this with your

2566
03:43:55,847 --> 03:44:00,707
with your new attorney and okay you've done
a really good job so far of dragging it

2567
03:44:00,707 --> 03:44:05,227
out so you don't have to pass this moratorium
god this is one of the times I would

2568
03:44:05,227 --> 03:44:08,867
love to be a mouse in the corner well how
can we bring it without really bringing it

2569
03:44:08,867 --> 03:44:13,827
they want it brought but we don't want to
have to vote for it oh we'll stick it on

2570
03:44:13,827 --> 03:44:18,167
after the hurricane and then we'll say we
can't vote for it hey we gave it another

2571
03:44:18,167 --> 03:44:22,077
airing this is the last time we're
gonna hear it we know these games.

2572
03:44:23,097 --> 03:44:27,197
I mean, they're very apparent. So please
bring it again and vote for the moratorium.

2573
03:44:27,737 --> 03:44:32,057
Thank you, Mel. We appreciate that. And as
a reminder, Commissioner May who is out,

2574
03:44:32,137 --> 03:44:36,797
but he was very passionate that it go on
the next agenda. So this has been on plan

2575
03:44:36,797 --> 03:44:43,147
to be on this meeting since before
the hurricane. Kevin, there was Kevin

2576
03:44:52,327 --> 03:44:57,607
Wade for one three, Southeast
Boblitz, the tech bros, hurricanes.

2577
03:44:59,577 --> 03:45:06,467
Their motto is move fast
break things and Change things

2578
03:45:06,467 --> 03:45:10,507
break it up change it
break it up change it.

2579
03:45:10,647 --> 03:45:17,607
We'll we'll come in with a different
style of of data center, you know

2580
03:45:17,607 --> 03:45:24,237
the People keep talking about
edge computing data centers and

2581
03:45:24,237 --> 03:45:29,497
edge is a different thing But that's okay

2582
03:45:30,817 --> 03:45:37,577
So far as a storm and breaking things.
I'm not aware of what's going on

2583
03:45:37,577 --> 03:45:42,217
contracting all the rest of that throughout
the county. I understand I've seen it

2584
03:45:42,347 --> 03:45:47,547
just like data centers. There's little
places that end up getting affected.

2585
03:45:48,687 --> 03:45:52,227
People keep screaming online. This is
worse than Sally. This is worse than Ivan.

2586
03:45:52,947 --> 03:45:59,647
Yeah, maybe your neighborhood. I
understand. I definitely understand why East

2587
03:45:59,647 --> 03:46:00,147
Hill

2588
03:46:01,507 --> 03:46:05,647
And many other places got hit
really hard by looking at the winds.

2589
03:46:06,287 --> 03:46:11,607
I saw, I was out there watching the water
in the bayou while those winds were coming

2590
03:46:11,607 --> 03:46:12,067
down.

2591
03:46:13,727 --> 03:46:18,127
That was crazy. Watching what's happened
with data centers around the world,

2592
03:46:18,127 --> 03:46:20,727
and here now, that's crazy.

2593
03:46:23,707 --> 03:46:28,727
Zelensky goes ahead and destroys
a bunch of Russian data centers

2594
03:46:29,117 --> 03:46:34,097
and... The administration screams,
that's election interference.

2595
03:46:37,647 --> 03:46:41,427
Say the quiet part out loud.

2596
03:46:42,467 --> 03:46:49,127
Really, election interference,
because the Russian bots got taken

2597
03:46:49,127 --> 03:46:53,227
down. That's some crazy stuff.

2598
03:46:54,047 --> 03:46:57,247
That's some crazy stuff. Oh, but West,

2599
03:46:58,587 --> 03:47:00,027
honestly, county staff,

2600
03:47:01,447 --> 03:47:07,907
I understand. Seeing your people out
there Immediately after the storm

2601
03:47:07,907 --> 03:47:14,387
and immediately before the storm your
trucks were the last ones I saw before the

2602
03:47:14,387 --> 03:47:20,907
storm and the first ones coming back and
I understand and I'm seeing it and I know

2603
03:47:20,907 --> 03:47:26,467
that County staff is out there at Navy
point and in East Hill and many other parts

2604
03:47:26,467 --> 03:47:33,317
of the county Kicking
it really kicking it and

2605
03:47:33,777 --> 03:47:38,897
I expect you all to do the
same and I know you are.

2606
03:47:43,037 --> 03:47:47,057
But cooperate, cooperate, cooperate.

2607
03:47:47,937 --> 03:47:48,457
Please.

2608
03:47:50,697 --> 03:47:54,317
These data centers, we don't
need it. We really don't.

2609
03:47:54,637 --> 03:47:57,637
Thank you, Kevin. Our last speaker
for this item is Theresa Blackwell.

2610
03:48:00,237 --> 03:48:03,577
Oh, and we actually, yes,
Peppers after Theresa, thank you.

2611
03:48:09,577 --> 03:48:12,177
Such a pleasure to be
with you this afternoon.

2612
03:48:14,847 --> 03:48:17,727
I had this whole speech, I'm
just gonna keep it short.

2613
03:48:19,027 --> 03:48:22,667
Because I'm not a technical expert in all
this and they know much more than I do.

2614
03:48:23,427 --> 03:48:29,387
So I just have two main points, so I'm
not even gonna look at my speech here.

2615
03:48:30,287 --> 03:48:35,107
The first is Commissioner
Berry made a good point.

2616
03:48:35,367 --> 03:48:38,987
Whatever we do here needs to be at
least as strong as our neighbors.

2617
03:48:40,267 --> 03:48:44,097
And so far we're not there
yet. And the second point,

2618
03:48:45,517 --> 03:48:49,217
let me see if I can remember, Commissioner
May was something that Commissioner

2619
03:48:49,217 --> 03:48:49,877
May's.

2620
03:48:52,197 --> 03:48:57,597
Oh yeah, he said if a moratorium reassures
the public and doesn't hurt anything,

2621
03:48:58,077 --> 03:49:01,917
then why not do it, even if it
might turn out to be unnecessary.

2622
03:49:03,177 --> 03:49:08,297
A pause costs nothing, but it protects
everything, could protect everything.

2623
03:49:08,877 --> 03:49:15,647
So. So I am all for adopting anything to
keep the data centers out until we know

2624
03:49:15,647 --> 03:49:18,767
what the repercussions
would be. Thank you.

2625
03:49:20,047 --> 03:49:22,607
Thank you, Teresa. We appreciate
it. Pepper, you're next.

2626
03:49:33,637 --> 03:49:40,507
I'd like to echo Kristie's comment about
Senate Bill 484 superseding Senate Bill

2627
03:49:40,507 --> 03:49:45,567
180. But something that I've been talking
about, and I haven't talked about it,

2628
03:49:46,127 --> 03:49:49,887
it seems like forever, but anyways,
independent impact studies.

2629
03:49:50,447 --> 03:49:52,387
And we're talking about tax cuts.

2630
03:49:53,847 --> 03:49:58,627
So what if these large water users, and
I'm not just talking about data centers,

2631
03:49:58,747 --> 03:50:03,697
I'm talking about whatever. What if they
prepaid for infrastructure upgrades?

2632
03:50:06,347 --> 03:50:10,527
independent impact studies. I think
that that would benefit the county.

2633
03:50:11,187 --> 03:50:15,867
When I hear everywhere, I go to a lot of
different meetings and one thing I hear

2634
03:50:15,867 --> 03:50:20,607
people talk about is our infrastructure
and how far behind we are.

2635
03:50:21,727 --> 03:50:26,527
So that's why I think that it would be
without even talking about data centers,

2636
03:50:26,547 --> 03:50:33,387
it'd just be great for the county if we
had large water and electric users to

2637
03:50:33,387 --> 03:50:33,967
prepay.

2638
03:50:35,267 --> 03:50:39,807
for the infrastructure. That way, you know,
we could upgrade our stuff and then the

2639
03:50:39,807 --> 03:50:41,727
taxpayers wouldn't have to pay for it.

2640
03:50:43,227 --> 03:50:49,917
I wanted to say too that Ashley,
Chair Hofberger, thank you for that comment about

2641
03:50:49,917 --> 03:50:50,817
the NDAs.

2642
03:50:53,137 --> 03:50:58,017
I mean, we could have had that
conversation outside, but I'm happy that it's on

2643
03:50:58,017 --> 03:51:03,697
public record. Thank you so much.
I have a real problem with NDAs.

2644
03:51:04,667 --> 03:51:09,027
Somebody that represents us
should never ever sign an NDA.

2645
03:51:09,687 --> 03:51:14,507
You're representing us, so why would
you hide something from us? So if you're

2646
03:51:14,507 --> 03:51:17,147
signing an NDA, you're
not representing us.

2647
03:51:18,677 --> 03:51:24,177
What else did I have? Well, I left my
phone, but there are other creative ways

2648
03:51:24,177 --> 03:51:30,287
without these... things that everybody's scared
of passing, moratorium and bands and

2649
03:51:30,287 --> 03:51:34,467
sizes and megawatts and everything,
we could get a little more creative.

2650
03:51:36,067 --> 03:51:40,047
And there's more information
than what I've just said.

2651
03:51:40,147 --> 03:51:45,327
There's other ways to get creative with
it and benefit the county. So I would love

2652
03:51:45,327 --> 03:51:49,207
to see y 'all consider
that. Thank you very much.

2653
03:51:49,847 --> 03:51:54,177
Madam Chair. Yes, sir. So. If everyone
changed their mind and said, yeah,

2654
03:51:54,217 --> 03:51:58,397
we want AI data centers and we want them
as big as possible, if you said that to us,

2655
03:51:58,397 --> 03:52:04,257
we would definitely put guardrails around
that. They would essentially become their

2656
03:52:04,257 --> 03:52:09,137
own utility. They would produce their own
water absorbing it from the atmosphere.

2657
03:52:09,297 --> 03:52:13,017
You probably have read about this.
They would also spend the money on the

2658
03:52:13,017 --> 03:52:17,297
infrastructure, upgrading the infrastructure. We're
not anywhere near that yet.

2659
03:52:17,857 --> 03:52:24,737
So we're still doing this moratorium.
I think my only question was, Why is it

2660
03:52:24,737 --> 03:52:28,017
low end, Madam Attorney? Why is
it 10 megawatts on the bottom end?

2661
03:52:30,297 --> 03:52:36,037
I'm not sure what the board is doing.
We have not advertised to do anything further.

2662
03:52:36,957 --> 03:52:41,577
I was just instructed to make sure this
item came on the next agenda. So you guys

2663
03:52:41,577 --> 03:52:45,517
are going to have to provide your records.
OK. Because I think that just one simple

2664
03:52:45,517 --> 03:52:51,397
server rack, it might be one kilowatt.
So 5 kilowatts for 5, I don't know.

2665
03:52:51,617 --> 03:52:57,977
I don't think that we need to even be at
10. I think we could probably get by with a

2666
03:52:57,977 --> 03:53:04,477
5 megawatt server rack
or ancillary for this

2667
03:53:04,477 --> 03:53:07,477
particular ordinance.

2668
03:53:13,507 --> 03:53:16,567
Thank you, Mr. Strowburger. Thank you.

2669
03:53:18,857 --> 03:53:20,817
Board, any further discussion on this?

2670
03:53:25,977 --> 03:53:26,217
Okay.

2671
03:53:27,477 --> 03:53:32,977
I do have two action items. Yes, ma
'am the agenda for for board vote, please Okay,

2672
03:53:33,017 --> 03:53:38,417
we do have a speaker on the first
item which is the extension of the declaration of

2673
03:53:38,417 --> 03:53:44,717
state of local emergency and Our first
speaker is Melissa and then after Melissa is

2674
03:53:44,717 --> 03:53:45,977
Kevin Okay,

2675
03:53:50,637 --> 03:53:54,877
I want to leave this on a note because
West has been here hearing a lot of criticism

2676
03:53:54,877 --> 03:54:00,497
and I wanted to make sure to leave it at
least for myself individually that when we

2677
03:54:00,497 --> 03:54:07,067
are criticizing corporate FPL, we
are not, and the decisions, the crap

2678
03:54:07,067 --> 03:54:12,927
decisions that corporate FPL makes,
because the parent company is next terror,

2679
03:54:13,647 --> 03:54:20,547
and next terror literally answers
to BlackRock, Vanguard, and State

2680
03:54:20,547 --> 03:54:20,987
Street.

2681
03:54:22,537 --> 03:54:29,097
When we are criticizing corporate
America, we're not criticizing David

2682
03:54:29,097 --> 03:54:33,437
Peden. We're not criticizing
our local FPL people.

2683
03:54:33,617 --> 03:54:39,917
We're seriously not criticizing the linesmen out
there. We have to have local people

2684
03:54:39,917 --> 03:54:45,837
that are interfacing with these
crap Goliath mega corporations.

2685
03:54:46,697 --> 03:54:52,957
When we are criticizing some of the big
administrative decisions that have been

2686
03:54:52,957 --> 03:54:59,137
made, it does not mean we are criticizing
the guys and the women who are out there

2687
03:54:59,137 --> 03:55:05,157
making this happen. And I am serious. I'm
not just gaslighting or trying to be like

2688
03:55:05,157 --> 03:55:11,837
good cop, bad cop. The response on the
roads was amazing compared to Sally.

2689
03:55:12,437 --> 03:55:16,657
And Sally's really the only one that I
have to compare it to, but Kevin can compare

2690
03:55:16,657 --> 03:55:21,817
it to every hurricane 30 some years.

2691
03:55:22,797 --> 03:55:29,297
We are all hostage. to this
historical moment where these evil

2692
03:55:29,297 --> 03:55:33,897
companies and these evil people, you want
to talk about Peter Thiel, you want to

2693
03:55:33,897 --> 03:55:39,257
talk about Zuckerberg, these are some of
the most evil people that have ever walked

2694
03:55:39,257 --> 03:55:46,257
the planet building bunkers in Argentina
and Hawaii because they know they're

2695
03:55:46,257 --> 03:55:50,557
getting ready to unleash mass chaos. Okay?

2696
03:55:51,137 --> 03:55:55,857
The conversations that these people have
about the Antichrist and how they're going

2697
03:55:55,857 --> 03:56:01,357
to fight it and maybe they're the new
Christ, these horrible cults of rich

2698
03:56:01,357 --> 03:56:06,577
billionaires that they have that travel
around the world and have their secret

2699
03:56:06,577 --> 03:56:12,077
meetings to decide the future
of our globe. That is happening.

2700
03:56:12,797 --> 03:56:19,077
We are in Atlas Shrugged. And if
we start fighting on a local level,

2701
03:56:19,667 --> 03:56:24,287
and seeing how authoritarian we can be
and how much can we push our authority,

2702
03:56:24,627 --> 03:56:30,387
how much can I do, how much is my
power, how much can I hate this person that's red,

2703
03:56:30,547 --> 03:56:35,727
how much can I hate this person that's
blue. If we keep doing this and going down

2704
03:56:35,727 --> 03:56:42,637
this road locally, we are effed. It is
the communities that learn how to stick

2705
03:56:42,637 --> 03:56:49,197
together against these horrid forces that
are trying to take all of our assets and

2706
03:56:49,197 --> 03:56:53,257
resources. They don't just want ours.
They're coming for y 'alls next.

2707
03:56:54,237 --> 03:56:57,057
Let's start working
together. Kevin, you're next.

2708
03:56:58,447 --> 03:57:00,627
And Kevin will be our
final speaker on this item.

2709
03:57:04,267 --> 03:57:07,307
Kevin Wade, 4 -1 -3 Southeast Bobblets.

2710
03:57:09,967 --> 03:57:14,927
There's hundreds and hundreds of yards of
wire that they got to put back up on poles

2711
03:57:14,927 --> 03:57:20,677
just to get close to the house
so not exactly at 413 right now,

2712
03:57:21,127 --> 03:57:24,547
but I've

2713
03:57:27,647 --> 03:57:34,587
Taken on that that that that role of
being the emergency pivot man That's

2714
03:57:34,587 --> 03:57:40,897
that's astounding sir. Thank you. Hey stepping up
for that as I remember when it was

2715
03:57:41,717 --> 03:57:45,697
What's his name got put in the hat for
who's his new County administrator?

2716
03:57:46,797 --> 03:57:51,587
Yeah It's like having somebody with
your experience throughout this County.

2717
03:57:52,067 --> 03:57:58,967
Let's let's get her done Please
get her done and and yeah like

2718
03:57:58,967 --> 03:58:05,787
Mel says it's There's a lot
way up there at the top top

2719
03:58:06,457 --> 03:58:10,967
of the money chain right? Got that

2720
03:58:13,407 --> 03:58:14,467
Sherrod Kushner,

2721
03:58:16,227 --> 03:58:21,007
that whole island that they're trying to
buy off the coast of Italy. You know why

2722
03:58:21,007 --> 03:58:24,747
they want that? Do you
know why they want that?

2723
03:58:25,967 --> 03:58:32,677
The reason they want that is
nuclear bunkers were built

2724
03:58:32,677 --> 03:58:39,277
there way back. Mussolini's
idea went into building

2725
03:58:39,277 --> 03:58:46,057
nuclear fallout shelters throughout
that entire island and turning it into a

2726
03:58:46,057 --> 03:58:53,057
paradise. So it is a wonderful
tropical paradise with nuclear

2727
03:58:53,057 --> 03:58:57,017
bunkers for a couple thousand people.

2728
03:58:57,947 --> 03:59:04,147
That's what they wanted for. Why do the
super rich people want to have nuclear

2729
03:59:04,147 --> 03:59:09,707
bunkers in a tropical paradise
turned into a Trump hotel?

2730
03:59:11,467 --> 03:59:18,327
I'll let you figure that one out and and
you and your people staff again They doing

2731
03:59:18,327 --> 03:59:25,027
what you can Keeping this tropical paradise
run and returning it back Thank you.

2732
03:59:25,127 --> 03:59:31,647
Thank them, you know If you came to this
county with your permitting vendetta

2733
03:59:31,647 --> 03:59:36,687
or as that's why you're here as
a commissioner, I understand.

2734
03:59:40,007 --> 03:59:45,027
Let's get it done, make
it better. Appreciate it.

2735
03:59:46,127 --> 03:59:50,167
Thank you, Kevin. That concludes our speakers
for this item. Allison has a comment.

2736
03:59:50,807 --> 03:59:54,927
I just need one and two. I just have one
question on this. Since it's only good for

2737
03:59:54,927 --> 03:59:58,917
seven days, we don't meet till the fifth.
Will the chair sign another declaration

2738
03:59:58,917 --> 04:00:04,900
after the 22nd? or how we administer the -
So my advice to the board is do not lapse

2739
04:00:04,900 --> 04:00:09,960
on your state of emergency until you are done
doing all the work that you need to do

2740
04:00:09,960 --> 04:00:13,620
and get reimbursed for. That
is what we did after Sally.

2741
04:00:13,900 --> 04:00:17,820
We went back, Delana went and checked
on the resolutions and you were actually under

2742
04:00:17,820 --> 04:00:24,010
a state of emergency after Sally until
the beginning of April. So my advice is to

2743
04:00:24,010 --> 04:00:28,730
stay under the state of emergency unless
FEMA gives you some assurance which we were

2744
04:00:28,730 --> 04:00:33,590
not able to get from them after Sally.
Stay under the state of emergency to ensure

2745
04:00:33,590 --> 04:00:37,870
reimbursements for things like debris
hauling, repairs, and that sort of thing.

2746
04:00:38,250 --> 04:00:42,770
You can put as many guardrails
on your incident commander, your administrator with

2747
04:00:42,770 --> 04:00:48,090
regards to procurements as you wish to
ensure that there's not anything that...

2748
04:00:47,840 --> 04:00:51,920
you think is unnecessarily being done
or however you want to address that.

2749
04:00:52,360 --> 04:00:56,700
But it's a technicality to keep it, I
think, to keep it in place until you're done

2750
04:00:56,700 --> 04:01:00,920
with what might need to get reimbursed.
So just for clarification, the answer I

2751
04:01:00,920 --> 04:01:04,440
think I heard every seven days, if
we don't have a meeting, either.

2752
04:01:04,650 --> 04:01:08,990
the chair will have to sign another
declaration, that's correct. That or the vice

2753
04:01:08,990 --> 04:01:13,270
chair or one of the commissioners
or Wes or Eric or Travis.

2754
04:01:13,450 --> 04:01:17,190
So we don't have to have an emergency meeting?
No. Okay. We can do it by just the

2755
04:01:17,190 --> 04:01:21,090
chairperson assuming a majority of the
board is okay with us doing it that way.

2756
04:01:21,150 --> 04:01:25,510
There's a triage under your ordinance,
your emergency ordinance, and it starts with

2757
04:01:25,510 --> 04:01:30,550
the chair and works its way down from there.
So Mike my I'm fine with that I don't

2758
04:01:30,550 --> 04:01:33,810
mind if the chair signs it the only thing
I would ask the county administrator Is

2759
04:01:33,810 --> 04:01:38,390
that we have summary briefs? So what's
going on? That's important to me as a

2760
04:01:38,390 --> 04:01:42,050
commissioner always, you know And so
that we know what's going on if we're not

2761
04:01:42,050 --> 04:01:46,890
having a meeting for discussion and I'll
make a motion to move unless there's more

2762
04:01:46,890 --> 04:01:51,940
discussion all in favor For
with Commissioner May absent.

2763
04:01:51,940 --> 04:01:55,540
Thank you. That is the last item on
our agenda. Everybody have a wonderful safe day.

2764
04:01:55,540 --> 04:01:56,000
Thank you.

2765
04:01:58,550 --> 04:02:03,040
I just wanted to clarify with Commissioner
Kohler that that motion was for items 1

2766
04:02:03,040 --> 04:02:06,920
and 2 on the county's attorney's report
and perfect. No, you're fine. Thank you so

2767
04:02:06,920 --> 04:02:07,140
much